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No, we have the same rights to complain as everybody else... especially when the "noise" we are complaining about is only an issue because the pub has left it's fire door open for three hours - when the licence it holds states that the door must be closed to prevent the music from escaping down the road.
It's not that hard to operate your business in accordance within the rules of operation on your licence.
If you move next door to someone who drives a car, does that mean that you don't get to complain if they were to run you over???
It's not that hard to operate your business in accordance within the rules of operation on your licence.
If you move next door to someone who drives a car, does that mean that you don't get to complain if they were to run you over???
Ceinwyn · 26-30, F
@HootyTheNightOwl See pretzels answer 🙃
@Ceinwyn Nah... I don't go chasing other people's responses when I know what the law is.
Ceinwyn · 26-30, F
@HootyTheNightOwl The point I was making is that people complain about noise made within permitted requirements of the licence for example before 11pm and under the volume limit.
People like to complain because they believe they are valid in every situation.
People like to complain because they believe they are valid in every situation.
@Ceinwyn I have lived just down the road from a pub for 17 years now... and people living locally have only complained about the pub on two occasions in that time - both of which were times when the pub breached its licence by having the back fire exit door open with live entertainment performing.
We put up with a lot every weekend. I've lost count of the number of times I stood on my doorstep at closing time and watched a guy lay his girlfriend flat on the floor by punching her. It'll no doubt happen again next weekend because they went up the pub and got steaming drunk. I've seen cars having to swerve to avoid hitting a drunk flat out in the road.
Still, we don't complain about that... even though it's dangerous - and someone is going to die out there one of these days. We do complain when their music is bouncing off all the houses down the street and people on the other end of the street can hear it after 10pm at night - especially when we know that their licence says that the back fire exit MUST be closed while they have live entertainment performing because the architecture locally amplifies the sound and carries it a lot further than it would travel on a straight road. There's a good reason why that term was put in place on their licence... and it's been there for decades, so we're not talking about something new that they need to get used to.
Just imagine that you live in one of the three houses opposite me - and you have your children in bed at 10pm on a Sunday night... then some idiot props the fire door open up at the club and you can hear the music loud enough to be able to sing along. That can carry on until last orders. How is it fair to the children that you're sending to school tomorrow morning???
How is it fair to you when you need to be clocking in at work at 6am in the morning???
We put up with a lot every weekend. I've lost count of the number of times I stood on my doorstep at closing time and watched a guy lay his girlfriend flat on the floor by punching her. It'll no doubt happen again next weekend because they went up the pub and got steaming drunk. I've seen cars having to swerve to avoid hitting a drunk flat out in the road.
Still, we don't complain about that... even though it's dangerous - and someone is going to die out there one of these days. We do complain when their music is bouncing off all the houses down the street and people on the other end of the street can hear it after 10pm at night - especially when we know that their licence says that the back fire exit MUST be closed while they have live entertainment performing because the architecture locally amplifies the sound and carries it a lot further than it would travel on a straight road. There's a good reason why that term was put in place on their licence... and it's been there for decades, so we're not talking about something new that they need to get used to.
Just imagine that you live in one of the three houses opposite me - and you have your children in bed at 10pm on a Sunday night... then some idiot props the fire door open up at the club and you can hear the music loud enough to be able to sing along. That can carry on until last orders. How is it fair to the children that you're sending to school tomorrow morning???
How is it fair to you when you need to be clocking in at work at 6am in the morning???
Ceinwyn · 26-30, F
@HootyTheNightOwl You chose to live there.
It’s not for everyone else to change to accommodate you.
Buy a helmet,
It’s not for everyone else to change to accommodate you.
Buy a helmet,
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