Trans - what IS that, really?

@hippyjoe1955 Oh, I expect that is how "most" saw it in the past, when "most" were terrified of anything not conforming to rigid societal norms, and of any human characteristics they could not understand, be that sexual traits or mental illness.

There may well still be countries that still exalt callousness, ignorance and intolerance, but you and I are lucky enough to live in lands that generally do try to understand and respect differences.

@ArishMell Yawn.

@hippyjoe1955 You are normally above being merely rude.

@ArishMell and you are normally more intelligent.

@hippyjoe1955 What did I say that was wrong in fact - of had I pointed out something you don't like?

I do not pretend to understand why people want to change sex, or at least "gender", any more than you do, but whatever it is I do not treat it as either mental illness or fantasy.

I simply try to accept that they do, and to accept them as people, even though baffled by their drive.

@ArishMell why does any one feel obliged to accept their insanity?

@ArishMell Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I said I don't 'accept' as in normalise someone else's mental issues. There are lots of mental conditions that should we normalise our society collapses including drug addictions. That is not condemning anyone simply pointing out that mental illness is at its heart self destructive and furthermore destructive to to society as a whole.

@hippyjoe1955 No need to be sarcastic. I can read perfectly well, thank-you very much.

I do not condone drug addiction because that is usually self-inflicted, often by curiosity or peer-pressure; and no, it should not be "normalised" in the way we might "normalise" innocent aspects of life. Although how we educate people not to even try these substances in the first place, Goodness knows. I don't think anyone else does either.

Genuine mental illness is not self-inflicted, of course. It is an illness and no-one can help it; though luckily many such illnesses can now be at least controlled. There but for the grace of God, and all that.....

This though, I find a very chilling echo of certain parts of 20th Century European history:

Having said you are not condemning anyone (I would hope you don't) you add, with my underlining:


Meaning what, exactly?
What sorts of mental illness?
What would be your answer for that harm to society you define, especially to those who are mentally ill, are close to, or are even caring personally or professionally for, someone who is?