@fernie2 it’s not the U.S. is it? here the apartment maintenance has to keep every little thing maintained. A hole in any of the window screens the size that a fly or other insect can crawl through will cause a problem if it’s not fixed.

@cherokeepatti I get that there are some awful tenants and the property needs to be checked and maintained. What I hate is that they come into your home whether you like it or not.We are powerless to say "that is not a good day for it...can we reschedule for a different day?"

@fernie2 It is the housing people doing it and they tell people that they will inspect when they sign up for housing assistance. Since they have so many apartments to check they don’t have time for people to tell them to come back another day. I lived in university apartments and had no privacy at all considering how many times per month maintenance would come in to check things…they’d give a couple days notice and let themselves in with the key and sometimes the apartment manager was with them too….they would schedule routine checks for water heaters, light fixture, insect checks, mold in bathroom, testing the smoke alarms twice a year, check the furnace/air conditioner closet, check the plumbing, etc.

@fernie2 yes he was depressed i guess, i haven't seen him for like 15 years now..

@elafina me too, I don’t even like it when it starts draining a bit slowly.

@elafina They have a long plastic tool like that with barbs on the sides that collects the hair in drains. I buy them for $1 at Dollar Tree for the sink and shower drain…they can pull up a lot of hair in the shower if you twist them around a bit.

@4meAndyou The woman had brain surgery before this started. I believe it is something physical with her. And as far as loss a woman in Tulsa was married to a wealthy mansion, lived in a small mansion and was shopping like crazy so much it caused a rift between her and her husband with her hoarding. He eventually divorced her and that home was full of new purchases still in bags, shoeboxes etc. and piled up everywhere even on the stairs going up to the 2nd floor. Seemed more like compulsive shopping than to fill any kind of loss. I had a sister-in-law that way. In the first years when her husband was in college she’d go to thrift stores or buy on clearance at deep discounts. Her husband graduated and got a good job at an oil company and then bought a house, they had one baby and then she got pregnant with twins and the shopping accelerated. She thought she had to dress all 3 children alike all the time. She would still go clearance shopping for new items but she might get 3 or 4 of the same outfit for each child in different colors so that they had 3 or 4 matching sets. I don’t know if all those clothes were even worn she had so many. She would go out shopping almost every day and not try to put things away and it started accumulating. They moved to another state when he got his job transferred and it got worse. I was never inside that new home but I can only imagine. Her shopping habits ended up causing them to divorce when he started limiting how much she could spend and she even got a job before that but she wanted to keep spending what he made like it was water or something.

@cherokeepatti Sad. Since I have a friend in RL who is a hoarder, I can't even watch that stuff on tv. Makes me want to cry for him.

@MrBrownstone Raw sewage, rotting food, pests…yikes. They had a woman who was divorced and was a hoarder. I guess her husband was wealthy, she lived in a very fine home in Tulsa. Her hoarding was a big part of the divorce because she was a shopaholic. She’d go shopping and bring packages home and they were everywhere, a lot of it was new clothing, shoes and accessories with the tags still attached…household decor and furnishings too…piled up everywhere. She even had packages on the stairs going upstairs. I think she ended up selling a lot of those clothing items and not wearing them. The home was relatively clean after getting rid of the excess but most of the homes are in need of expensive repairs after the hoard is cleared out. I had a neighbor around the corner who was a hoarder, her backyard backs up to mine. She had a huge shed and it was piled from top to bottom, packed. Her house was the same way. My neighbor helped her have a garage sale and was selling stuff cheap, it was because she had relatives from Germany that had come for an extended visit. This woman had an obsession with buying good items from yard sales. She had talked of having a yard sale of her own and making a lot of money. But never took the time to organize one other than the one my other neighbor helped her with years before. She ended up dying and her son asked my other neighbor to help organize a garage sale and he would pay her. She worked for months pulling out boxes of things and organizing them by type of item, a box of about 100 pair of scissors for example All kinds of cookware, tools, nicknames etc. She said she was “neat hoarder”, wrapping everything carefully before boxing them up. There was literally no room for anything else and it made it hard to work inside the house. She didn’t even have time to pull things from the shed before the sale. They made $17,000 total. And sold the excess to a professional estate sales person.

@cherokeepatti I think some people learned that from either parents or grandparents who grew up in the Great Depression. People saved everything. My grandpa would clean the spark plugs in his lawnmower rather than buy new ones.

@MrBrownstone yeah you can extend the life of things by cleaning them up but I think this lady’s reason for buying more stuff was to make some money by reselling it. I don’t know how much money she spent on all that stuff but it was wasn’t worth displacing her living space. She was an active little lady, I used to see her working out in her yard cleaning it up and she was in her 70’s. I think maybe she just wanted to keep busy and do things after her husband died. Two of her sons died and the other one lives here but rarely came to visit her, he never married or had children so basically no family to visit her.

@RadiantRuby I don’t know. If it is a recent episode (newer one) probably not. You can do a search though.

@RadiantRuby it might be on A&E’s website.

@RadiantRuby I think an exorcist would have been afraid to step foot in that mess.