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Nothing screams dumb like a conservative disliking welfare when half of republicans are on it.

There's some dumbbbbbbbbbbb b itchessssssss on here I swear 🤒
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@jshm2 Yeah the last part of what you said, it feels that way a lot. I can tell by how hyperbolic their claims are that they are trying to get you emotional enough so you don't think about it. I get they don't understand but it's weird wishing for your own destruction. Like they wake up in the morning and say "you know what I really hate, I hate having the ability to go to the doctor and just take care of myself in other aspects of my life."

It's super strange. I have little respect for those people because they seem not to respect themselves either.
I'm waiting for this to turn out like ending Obama Care: laughing at the thought of hurting others while thinking they were safe under their Affordable Care Act plan, until they realized those were the same and they voted away their own insurance.

SNAP goes by various names in different states, so I wonder how many are laughing at SNAP users going to starve while thinking they'll continue enjoying their Nutrition Assistance or CalFresh, until that ends thanks to their own vote.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@NerdyPotato Oh I remember that one, it just shows how uneducated they are. They didn't even know it was the same thing but thought it was something different. Had they done their research they would know that. They basically are people who look at tag lines of newspapers and then form an opinion without knowing the story.

I think most people think that felons shouldn't vote, I think felons should vote, I think maga shouldn't get the right to vote anymore for this reason. We obviously have it backward in who can vote or not.
Munumbis · 46-50, M
People should get jobs and suppot themselves. I slept in an abandon mine and rode my bicycle from that mine to work at the resort I worked at. But, I wasn't dependent on the government to take care of me.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Munumbis That is because you were healthy enough and suffered no emergencies to ever need help. You're just wrong for many reasons, welfare does not involve just not working nor doing anything and they've done studies to prove it.

https://publicsquaremag.org/media-education/education/poverty-myths-american-welfare/

Myth 2: “People who accept government benefits become dependent and don’t want to work.” There are two categories of government assistance in the United States: “welfare” for the poor and “tax breaks” for the more affluent.

“Welfare” includes food stamps, housing vouchers, subsidized daycare and housing, WIC supplemental nutrition, the Earned Income Tax Credit, Medicaid, SSI and SSDI payments, and unemployment benefits, all of which are available in limited quantities, are hard to qualify for, and are easy to lose.

Consequently tax breaks for the affluent cost more than welfare:

“Tax breaks” include the Child Tax Credit (which in 2020 benefited parents with incomes up to $150,000 before the benefit was phased out for those with higher incomes), the mortgage interest deduction for first and second homes, government-subsidized retirement benefits, government-guaranteed student loans for higher education, 529 college savings plans, the tax exemption for the value of one’s employer-sponsored health plan, low tax rates on capital gains, and the nonexistent estate and gift taxes, all of which accrue mostly to middle-class and wealthy families and are relatively easy to get and difficult to lose so long as your income and wealth continue.

According to poverty researcher Matthew Desmond, these “tax breaks” cost the government $1.8 trillion in 2021—more than twice what we spent on the military and national defense, and far more than was spent on “welfare”—and about half of these “tax breaks” went to families in the top 20 percent of the income distribution.

[quote]Yet we who get these breaks probably feel entitled to them; we certainly don’t believe that they are causing us to become dependent on government handouts. By their nature, they continue to be available if we keep working into retirement, so we are not tempted to quit.

Similarly, the poor are not becoming dependent on government handouts, nor are they tempted to stop working even when they are technically eligible for retirement. The idea that the poor are lazy is a long-promulgated slander. Since the Industrial Revolution required business owners to find ways to lure “the masses into their mills and slaughterhouses to work for as little pay as the law and market allow,” the word has gone out that the poor are “idle and unmotivated.” But researchers who studied cash welfare payments to young single mothers in the 1980s and 1990s discovered that most recipients gave up the payments within two years, sometimes receiving benefits again “for limited periods of time when between jobs or after a divorce.” The researchers concluded, “The welfare system does not foster reliance on welfare so much as it acts as insurance against temporary misfortune.”
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@Munumbis
I slept in an abandon mine and rode my bicycle from that mine to work at the resort I worked at. But, I wasn't dependent on the government to take care of me.

That's good. And there are a lot of people who have the determination to be successful without assistance. But if you wrecked your bike on the way to work and broke your spine you might look at a little differently. Or you were suddenly out of breath and found you had a heart valve that need replaced immediately. One size doesn't fit all.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
They are told on their non "mainstream media" that democrats or "dumocrats" as they alll parot robotically, are the only ones on welfare.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@JimboSaturn Which is crazy because republicans themselves were studied and found to be on welfare at the same time lol I don't get how they can come to that conclusion but I have heard that sentiment many times too.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@SatanBurger They don't rely on facts to shape their opinions but on emotion.
Adroneandastrain · 46-50, M
I wonder if they're on a payroll, 5 bucks for phrases and sentences that technically make sense but not in the real world circumstances like we have!!

 
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