One of those days

@Kiesel i totally agree with this.

I dont know why it is that America has indoctrinated politics into peoples personal lives so much.
Its as bad as, if not worse than religion.

@OogieBoogie agree wholeheartedly….
It’s honestly so very sad…

@Kiesel many times we manage well and I watch mine day time when he’s not home.
But this obvious case was really disappointed.

@Eyeinthesky I know that when I went to visit my sister a few months ago, she wanted to dive into some politics… I firmly yet strongly said “we’re not going to have this conversation”. And she agreed to take it off the table…
We silently agreed to respect each others stance yet keep our stances to ourselves…

@OogieBoogie you have the perfect viewpoint, control and perspective.
I agree wholeheartedly.
I try to maintain that same discipline about politics…

@Eyeinthesky id maybe take a leaf out of @Kiesel's book.... and 'outlaw' it.

Maybe tell him about SW, (dont have to mention you're here)....and give him somewhere else to rant?


You prolly cop it all coz no one else will put up with it 😏

Greywall it. Dont engage. Walk away. Outlaw that shit.

Its your relationship too.
It your love and friendship too.
- What is he doing to support that? Arguing about politics certainly isnt deepening those bonds is it ?

@OogieBoogie
Personal choice is what makes or breaks a country, rather than allowing the government to make every choice for us. Americans appreciate that freedom. It's not something we take lightly nor for granted. Even the Bible talks about the importance of choosing good leaders.

I appreciate your thoughts on the role of politics and religion in our country. I understand that you feel strongly about the potential for indoctrination, and I agree that it's essential to be mindful of how these forces shape our society. However, I'd like to offer a different perspective. To me, the fact that we have the right to vote, to express our opinions, and to worship (or not worship) as we choose, is what makes our country great!

These freedoms allow us to engage in lively debates, to challenge each other's ideas, and to make informed decisions about the direction of our nation. Rather than seeing politics and religion as tools for indoctrination, I see them as opportunities for citizens to engage with each other, to share their perspectives, and to work towards the common good. I don't know of any that would prefer their government lead them by the nose, and their freedom of choice taken away.

As far as indoctrination, our system is designed to allow for a diversity of views and opinions, and it's up to each of us to think critically and make informed decisions. I feel our focus should be on having a respectful conversations about our differences, and find common ground where we can.

I appreciate your passion for this topic, and I understand that you may have had negative experiences with certain expressions of faith. However, I've noticed that you sometimes accuse Christians of trying to push their beliefs on others, and I want to respectfully offer a different perspective.

As a Christian, I believe that sharing my faith is about sharing the love and hope that I have found...not at all about forcing my beliefs on others. I think it's possible for people of faith to share their perspectives without being pushy or judgmental. At the same time, I feel that your comments about Christians and faith can sometimes come across as dismissive and critical.

I'd love to see a more nuanced discussion where we can respectfully disagree without assuming the worst about each other's intentions. I definitely believe that people can have meaningful conversations about their differences without trying to change each other's minds. If like to see all focus on understanding each other's perspectives and treating each other with kindness and respect, even when we disagree.

@LadyGrace ok ...so tell me how you personally talking/arguing about politics will make a politician change their mind?

@Kiesel
That's a very civil and thoughtful way to do it. I like your idea. This is very sensible. They could agree that that subject, since it is so touchy, is off limits so they won't be at each other's throats.

Of course, there are other alternatives as well, like simply not saying a word when they're watching politics, just accept that the other has the right to their own opinion and respect that.

Refuse to get caught up in a feud. I would just say honey I respect your opinion on this, I'm just not on the same page so I'd rather not comment, rather than argue amongst ourselves. I love you too much to let this affect our relationship. This seems to be very touchy subject with us, so let's agree to disagree and in that way, respect each other's boundaries. It's not worth arguing over. Our love is more important.

Things like that and that way you're not being pushy but rather showing love and respect for each other's differences.

@OogieBoogie Firstly, I'm not interested in arguing about politics. I'm concerned about respecting my personal choice in voting for whom I feel would best serve our country. By engaging in respectful debates, I'm not necessarily trying to change a politician's mind, but rather contributing to a broader conversation that can influence public opinion and policy. It's about exercising my right to participate in democracy and encouraging others to do the same.

@OogieBoogie I think that you share everything with your spouse. It's not a debate. It's coming to a conclusion. Ilhan is clearly upsetting the nation which took her open heartedly and welcomed her with arms wide open. Now, if some one says they like Ilhan then probably they need to watch her statements more than often. You don't go to someone's home and beg for a place to live. And when you get one, you start screaming about oh this home is not good. Who is stopping Ilhan to go back.

She is right. No compromise. Her spouse will understand it. But they need to discuss. If spouse agrees with Ilhan, they both (Ilhan and her spouse) need to pack bags and go to Somalia to live peacefully.

@LadyGrace .....and ...
Im sorry, but we are talking about someone being pushy and aggravating emotionally....in an unfair way to their partner - the poster.

What you believe is all well and good...
for your chosen slice of the universe
But this post isn't about you. Its about her.
Her relationship with her partner, and the problems that are stemming from pointless political arguments between them.
Unwarranted arguments.




...as is this one.

This isnt about your belief in your politics...its about her.

@OogieBoogie There are two spectrums. Right and wrong. It's not about politics. It's about RIGHTand WRONG. Who gives entry to these politicians anyways?

@DanielsASJ Again....this isnt about you. Or your experience.


The poster is finding herself in an unwarranted political debate.

She's even stated that she's neutral.... but isnt being treated that way.

And now YOU'RE doing it. Bringing your political stuff into her emotional dilemma.


Fs..... doesn't any one have any reading comprehension and empathy any more?


I gotta edit this. I think may have taken a wrong turn somewhere


Im not sure its even about right and wrong - its about trying to help someone who has asked for help

@OogieBoogie I understand full well what the topic is about. I never said anything to indicate that I thought this was about me. You seem upset over my simply addressing your point about politics and religion being forced on people. That is what I was addressing. So now we can get back to the regular topic per your request.

@LadyGrace that'd be nice

@OogieBoogie If you want to help her, Atleast acknowledge that she is right. She is right because she is looking for an explanation. She is right because she is more meaningful and she seeks answers.

@DanielsASJ Did you not look at my replies to her?

I did offer her the best sound knowledge that i know and is psychology based.

Although Im not entirely sure why you think a Taswegian has any deep insight into American 2 party politics 🤔😏