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Trump claiming that 100% of jobs are taken by illegal immigrants is laughable.

I'm white and get those kinds of jobs all the time, in fact I work in one right now. The types that complain, if you know who they are, aren't hurting for money so they can't honestly tell me they actually sign up for factory work or hot labor jobs during the day. That's insane to really suggest that you white people are out there just signing up in full fledged numbers to go work out there. I'm going to say something controversial, the historical slave trade in America specifically was perpetuated mostly by white people who didn't want to work in the fields at 5 am.

What makes you think you want to work in hot fields now when you have a history of not wanting to work?

GTFO really.

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yeah but Central Americans aren't the only ones who would take jobs. we should probably regulate our own immigration policy.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@StygianKohlrabi I'm just saying that I've always gotten hired in heavy immigrant work places just fine so it makes no sense why OTHER white Americans can't get jobs somehow. It's more like they weren't qualified for a job they signed up for and got mad, then assumed that someone took their job and they weren't hired specifically on the grounds they were white.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@StygianKohlrabi There was a recent article about a guy who is suing some work place because he didn't get hired with his original name but wrote a name that sounded more white and he magically got hired. So he can prove discrimination. More employers discriminated on someone's name if they aren't American so I fail to see how immigrants are taking "100% of the jobs."

You can't say that employers are willfully hiring illegal immigrants over Americans but also simultaneously mostly discriminate against non American names. Because that would mean that the employers aren't hiring people with non American names in the first place.

You can't do both, make up your mind.
@SatanBurger well often if you want to work in a kitchen for example, you should know Spanish. that goes for construction. oh and housekeeping. so if that is the qualification of course they will favor Latin American immigrants and even illegal ones. also they think if you are born in America and you want this job you must be pulling their leg. its not all fantasy. on the other hand some people might be unhireable.

we live in an excuse making culture. that guy does not have solid evidence of discrimination. yet people are winning judgements of millions based on a bunch of BS racism claims. so that has had an effect on peoples minds. there has to be a little more than they didnt favor me because I'm black, white or purple. they need solid evidence that was the reason.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@StygianKohlrabi
yet people are winning judgements of millions based on a bunch of BS racism claims

Which cases to be more specific? People can't believe everything they read as they weren't there and don't know how the other person feels.
@SatanBurger I have heard of many. whether or not they feel discriminated against isn't what should win the case IMHO. it's more about whether there was intentional discrimination. your example doesn't prove it. maybe he just got lucky resubmitting an application. theres no such thing as a white persons name. also, there was a black guy who was kicked out of a Walmart who received millions in compensation but he didn't have solid proof. it was more circumstantial.ffs if I get kicked out of a place and I have, a lawyer wouldnt even waste time on me.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@StygianKohlrabi It doesn't really matter if there's no such thing, it's about what the recruiter thinks with unconscious biases. That's the bottom line. On average white people get called in at a larger percent than others. There's such thing as unconscious bias and you can have that towards names when that's the first thing a recruiter sees.

Related back to my original post, I still fail to see how 100% of all jobs are taken by immigrants if recruiters also have unconscious biases if they are untrained to recognize them in the first place. Surely 100% of jobs can't statistically be taken if this were true. My main point is that it is irrational to say that 100% of jobs are taken away from white people, it's not statistically true at all.

https://www.inc.com/bruce-crumley/heres-exactly-where-racial-bias-in-hiring-persists-and-how-businesses-can-address-it.html

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also, there was a black guy who was kicked out of a Walmart who received millions in compensation but he didn't have solid proof. . it was more circumstantial

I looked this up and it's not circumstantial in the least, the victim deserved that money. Walmart employed a person who was willfully stealing from them (he got terminated way later for mishandling $35 dollars of Walmart's property.)

The police claimed that the perpetrator made SO many false reports to the police that they even said themselves in court that they were tired of him filing false police reports on people. It wasn't his first go around. That's why they didn't arrest the victim in the first place, the man who harassed this person was constantly doing stuff to other people previously. It's not like the victim just made the whole thing up, the victim couldn't have possibly known that the accuser was doing that to other people and the police report of the perpetrator even said that they had faced other false police reports of the same nature by this person. You can't tell me that the perpetrator was telling the truth over the victim if there's already an established routine behavior.

The victim's story adds up to what the perpetrators other victims also faced and the victim of this recent one couldn't have possibly known that. Therefore they're telling the truth.

WHY Walmart was sued in the first place was down to pure negligence for not investigating his false police reports previously and not supervising him which made them responsible for his behavior, that's why they were sued. He had done this many times before and was stealing himself but Walmart failed to act appropriately and made it unsafe for the person being accused. They likely would have never been sued if they just acted appropriately after the first dozen false police reports.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22189430/oregon-walmart-racial-profiling-lawsuit.pdf


Walmart was negligent in one or more of the following ways, and such
negligence was a cause of all damage alleged in the first claim for relief:
1) In retaining Williams in a loss prevention capacity; and
2) In failing to supervise Williams so as to prevent foreseeable
violations of customers’ rights by Williams.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/22/us/black-customer-racial-profiling-walmart/index.html

In a deposition clip given to CNN by Mangum’s attorney, Multnomah County Sheriff’s Shift Cmdr. Sgt. Bryan White said he and deputies on his shift had become “extremely frustrated with a pattern of behavior that they had identified” in the employee calling 911 to report “dangerous active situations such as customers physically assaulting him or loss prevention employees or other Walmart employees while trying to steal and then the deputies determining that that never actually happened.”
@SatanBurger I don't care that you show me CNN a heavily biased news org. You really think that he deserved millions of dollars because one employee had a hissy fit and called the police? The police just pulled up and drove away. Where is the intent?

Why is unconscious thinking brought up in court? Its because lawyers have perverted the system. Unless you resurrect Freud and he testifies that somebody is racist in their unconscious mind, you can't prove much. Let me ask you why can't you jail somebody because they were imagining stealing a donut in their unconscious mind? Because that would be nuts and it is here as well.

Nothing even happened to the guy. He wasn't made to leave the store by police, and that's why the police werent sued.

LOL your complaint against 'white' people is they are paranoid but you accept paranoid thinking on your end. why?
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@StygianKohlrabi Walmart deserved to get sued for keeping an employee that made dozens of false police reports and made it unsafe for customers. The police weren't sued because the police said he made dozens of false police reports and they were sick of it.
@SatanBurger why is it you think white mens feelings aren't important when they think they may have been discriminated against?
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@StygianKohlrabi Why do white men think that just because they didn't get the job it was specifically because an illegal immigrant specifically stole their unique job?
@SatanBurger because sometimes in a workplace everyone else is Mexican or everyone is Chinese and you wonder why they won't hire you
@SatanBurger as far as the guard theres nothing there about him discriminating until that incident and numerous police records
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@StygianKohlrabi It's highly doubtful that any one workplace is all one race. You make it sound as if white people go into an interview and the place is all Chinese and you don't get hired specifically because you're white.

I've gotten hired at plenty of places with mostly immigrants and I'm white so it must not be because of illegal immigrants.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@StygianKohlrabi Okay well the police lied in court then about their false reports so take that up with the court then because that's a felony.
@SatanBurger based on what you said he was just a bozo not a racist. he asked somebody to leave, he didn't leave. haven't you ever been asked to leave? hah
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@StygianKohlrabi He made numerous false police reports in the past all alleging similar things with customers. Walmart is at fault for not firing the guy, it even says in the original PDF court file that Walmart was being sued for negligence, not racism.
@SatanBurger hmm. so what was the judgment $4 million? for being asked to leave? and he got the money, not the other so called victims. not fair at all.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@StygianKohlrabi The other victims didn't sue but I'm sure they could have. I mean that's kind of how it works.
@SatanBurger Why wasn't a class action suit filed on their behalf then? Teach me oh wise one. Or Google it for me.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@StygianKohlrabi I couldn't possibly know that. If you think the police lied about filing false police reports then that's fraud and I suggest you take that up with the court.