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Disappointed with myself still thinking I need to be polite

Went to the Goodwill outlet with my daughter yesterday. There was a man with a cart standing against the wall next to the last bin. I assumed he was probably waiting for his wife with their cart. As I looked through the bin he said something about one of the items i was considering. I told him what is was but language gap got in the way and the coversation felt awkward so I moved on. Few minutes later I was at a different bin on the other side and he was next to me again. He slowly started looking through things too while asking me something about if I had a boyfriend, if I lived alone, etc. I told him I'm married and hoped that would end his interest in me. He came around me a few more times after that and tried talking with me more. I ignored him and would move away.
I stayed alert and watched for him as i left. He obviously wasnt there with anyone and he wasnt seriously shopping for anything, but only made it look like he was.
I was being polite and that was wrong in this situation. I should have looked him in the eye and told him I dont like him talking to me and he will leave me alone or I will get the manager. I missed a good chance for my 13 year old daughter to see a valuable lesson on how to protect her personal safety. It would have stayed with her and helped her in the future.
Am I ever going to get away from this belief of the need to be polite in all situations? Its more ingrained in my brain than I thought.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
Yeah don’t be so polite when it comes to strangers asking personal questions. He might have been looking at your daughter thinking if there were no men around to protect her to snatch her. These people will strike up conversations with women or teens who are strangers to see if they have a good target for that. It’s a sick world we are living in.
morrgin · F
@cherokeepatti i know there are many out there, but i know of a very bad particular one too. I cant stand knowing that he's probably victimizing some mother and child right now. Without proof though not much i can do. The people i talked to who were past victims of him when they were children are too scared of him to ever report it
val70 · 51-55
Yes, you're right. Personally, I don't dare to complain at times and I'm lesbian. If one looks at it with Darwinian eyes I'd say that every opportunity is grained in us not to complain but to accept. I'm more than sure that your daughter will be alright like you are now. But yes, some of us do have to experience some things to be much more aware of evil. Plenty of much more polite and dangerous weirdoes out there, I'm afraid
morrgin · F
@val70 the number of them out there increased with the use of the internet. They were pretty isolated before with all their predator inclinations and ideas. Now they easily find others like themselves online who agree and support their dark impulses. They have their own network servers and use encryption to protect their conversations and file transfers. The FBI is so overloaded they will usually omly investigate crimes against infants. As if anyone hurting an infant isnt bad enough! Its scary out there and I rambled off topic. Thx for your reply.
val70 · 51-55
@morrgin Thanks for the ramble. I've been assaulted by females when I was a teenager, plus up to almost recently I do hear the same thing from other females too. That's never so much talked about. Some people want to hurt. Nothing to do with anything else. I remind them politely that childhood is sacred and walk away
revenant · F
You were caught off guard and you probably did not want to make a scene either.

I have been in situations like that ,behaved like you did and hated me after but then you know how quickly things can turn right ?

Some people will very quickly turn around and make you the problem implying they were only helping, you are paranoid and so on.
revenant · F
@morrgin good for you ! FOG....oh I will remember that !🙂
You are a strong lady !
morrgin · F
@revenant thx. And the FOG is used by lots of people. Even kids use it on their parents when they think it might work.
revenant · F
@morrgin ahah so true ! your FOG comment made me dream and reminisce ahah...
MrEagle · 41-45, M
That’s certainly a scary situation. It’s unfortunate that it happened, and maybe you missed the opportunity in the moment to set that example for your daughter. But I’d say you could use that still as a learning point especially since it’s an example of what could happen.
But being polite is never an issue. It’s the a-holes and pervs that do stuff like this that are the issue. Sorry you and your daughter had to go through that.
Freeranger · M
I think it's fine to be polite with any [i]initial[/i] contact. What's important is the ability to read people. I carry concealed.....having been shot in a robbery attempt eons ago, it was a wake up. At the least, be polite, but be aware is all. I would encourage you to carry repellent with a strong spray stream.
I could go on with the other bits about situational awareness for women, but it would defeat your post I think.
morrgin · F
@Freeranger for women especially ,situational awareness is a constant part of life. In the situation i had the guy was a creep and quite likely dangerous, but for him to become an actual threat he would need one thing - privacy.
Don't best yourself up for starting with a taking care of the "sojourner in your midst"/being caring of your "neighbor".

Start by being open.

But *do* be willing to say sthg like:

"You know, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. But now I see you are simply a creep. You need to back off and leave me/us alone, or we'll get others involved, including law enforcement, if necessary. It's your move; what's it goimg to be?"
Nelisme · 22-25, F
You’re a nice person. The old man was undoubtedly lonely and looking for someone to share some time with. Sure, it might have been bed time, but you don’t know that. Don’t angry with yourself cause you weren’t mean. Give him the benefit of the doubt and move on. No harm done.
morrgin · F
@Nelisme i disagree, but I'm appreciative of your feedback and positive point of view
ElRengo · 70-79, M
"I missed a good chance for my 13 year old daughter to see a valuable lesson on how to protect her personal safety. It would have stayed with her and helped her in the future"

IMO this!
TexChik · F
You did nothing wrong . He was a predator and stalking you in the store. Standing your ground and confronting a stalker is never wrong .
morrgin · F
@TexChik but i didnt confront him. I just ignored and avoided him since we were in in a public area with a lot of people where its safe and i knew he didnt pose any real danger.
ineedadrink · 51-55, M
@ShiftingGears My daughter has her keychain canister.
sciguy18 · M
Nothing wrong with being polite. Once you realize there is creepy behavior involved though...
SW-User
That guy sounded like a creep.

 
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