How should I feel about it 🤷🏻‍♀

I found out this week that the man who brutally murdered my grandad had hung himself.

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about that.

It doesn't bring me joy or closure

It doesn't make me feel justice has been served

Am I sad he's gone. No of course I'm not I'm relieved I'll never have to think about the fact he may walk the same streets as me again one day.

For the most part I feel cheated. Why should he get to end his life and escape from the evil disgusting things that he did.

I wanted him to live a long and torturous life where images of my grandad haunted him forever.

I would say his death should of been one of suffering but I suppose that's the one thing that actually was. Hanging is no bed of roses.

I hope my grandad met him as he descended into the light and cast him into the burning fires of hell for all eternity.

Good riddance Gavin Coz

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GeniUs · 56-60, M

I always wonder how I would feel if I was in this situation and rightly or wrongly I've concluded that whoever carries out acts of violence like this should die, not for revenge but so that they never do it again. There are arguments that they can be rehabilitated but there are also arguments that they'll serve their time say the right things and be amongst ordinary people again so I'm comfortable when murderers die. I'd much rather know that a killer has died than hear of somebody else losing their life for no reason and the impact that that has on so many other people.

woodyemma2013 · 41-45, F

@GeniUs there is alot of truth in that. I think that helps a little thanks

ninalanyon · 61-69, T

@GeniUs How many innocent people are you willing to see go to the gallows in order to ensure that you execute the guilty?

GeniUs · 56-60, M

@ninalanyon If you want a precise answer to that question it's 'zero', however I sense that wasn't the question you were intending to ask.
BTW tell me whether Dale Cregan deserves to live or die or the remorseless gunman who went to kill a gang member in Liverpool but finding the man not to be at the location shot a 4 year old girl dead instead.

ninalanyon · 61-69, T

@GeniUs I'm all in favour of preventing criminals offending again. And in the cases you mention the death penalty might is most likely appropriate.

The problem is that experience has shown that Draconian irreversible penalties coupled with overstretched judicial systems and a naive view in the courts regarding what counts as proof result in innocent people being punished irreversibly. So in the end it does become a question of literally how many innocents we as a society are willing to sacrifice in the immediate future in order to prevent the murder of others in the more distant future or to spare society the expense of incarceration for life.

GeniUs · 56-60, M

@ninalanyon IMO there is no reason why guilty verdicts are found against people unless; it is to frame somebody; it is to prevent the real culprit being found but in each case the evidence is present to find the suspect innocent or not enough evidence to find them guilty. The only problem is 'is the judicial system corrupt or not?' And by corrupt I mean as little as are they willing to find somebody guilty for ease of trial.