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kimmy159 · F
In my own personal opinion though, your forgiveness is only meaningful and courageous when not everyone gets it.
teachmetiger210503 · 36-40, M
@kimmy159 why not? We are all fellow humans and no one is perfect, we all need forgiveness from each other and from God. I don't atone partiality.
ABCDEF7 · M
@teachmetiger210503 If you forgive everyone, it's a mindset. I am not saying it's good or bad.
But it is courageous only when you don't have mindset to forgive everyone, but still you manages to forgive someone out of your normal mindset(to not forgive).
If we consider that everyone should be forgiven, then there should be no punishment and no prisons/jail. It depends on nature of the act.
But it is courageous only when you don't have mindset to forgive everyone, but still you manages to forgive someone out of your normal mindset(to not forgive).
If we consider that everyone should be forgiven, then there should be no punishment and no prisons/jail. It depends on nature of the act.
kimmy159 · F
@teachmetiger210503 @ABCDEF7 I second the above ^^ Some acts and behavior should not be forgiven easily or at all. If your general mindset is to forgive, then people could do anything to you and it won't make a difference to them whether it was good or bad.
Not everyone has natural good intentions, why would you reinforce that by giving your forgiveness all the same. They won't learn from the situation if the result is the same (forgiveness no matter what). Depending on what it is of course, and weather or not it is repetitive, because nobody is perfect indeed.
Not everyone has natural good intentions, why would you reinforce that by giving your forgiveness all the same. They won't learn from the situation if the result is the same (forgiveness no matter what). Depending on what it is of course, and weather or not it is repetitive, because nobody is perfect indeed.
teachmetiger210503 · 36-40, M
@kimmy159 forgiveness is freedom
teachmetiger210503 · 36-40, M
ABCDEF7 · M
@teachmetiger210503 I do consider forgiveness as a mindset for myself, and I feel it very easy to forgive. I don't think myself very courageous in forgiving because of my mindset.
You may feel it very courageous, and everyone would feel it very courageous who can't understand or realize that mindset.
You may feel it very courageous, and everyone would feel it very courageous who can't understand or realize that mindset.
XDHyperGirlXD1 · 31-35, F
@kimmy159 steals all kimmy food because i know i be forgiven for it :D
ABCDEF7 · M
@kimmy159 For those people that can harm me again and again, when I forgive them, I make a distance from them limiting their capability to have further effect on me, so finally disabling them to harm me again.
For example, if some person here on SW tries to hurt me emotionally, I will forgive, but would not interact with them any more, or may mute/block them.
For example, if some person here on SW tries to hurt me emotionally, I will forgive, but would not interact with them any more, or may mute/block them.
kimmy159 · F
@ABCDEF7 I feel like there are nuances in forgiveness. If you see it like that, then basically I might have forgiven everyone too for whatever happened up so far. However, I also have the same reaction as you have, I remove them from my circle of influence, and then you might wonder: is that really forgiveness if you act differently afterwards? ;) (It's not really a question, just me thinking out loud on paper :D)
kimmy159 · F
@XDHyperGirlXD1 Idk, that seems like a pretty heavy offense to me ;p
XDHyperGirlXD1 · 31-35, F
@kimmy159 🍽️😁
ABCDEF7 · M
@kimmy159 No, when your are not thinking about them, doesn't mean you have forgiven them. Instead, if you forgive them, it's gets easy to forget even after the person or things related to that even comes to you at anytime in future.
If you have not forgiven them, but just forget the episode. You may feel the same hurt if somehow that episode comes to your mind/life by different ways like repeating of similar event or the person comes in front of you. And whole purpose of just forgetting is defeated for you. Here, forgiveness comes as an important aspect for you than just forgetting.
If you have not forgiven them, but just forget the episode. You may feel the same hurt if somehow that episode comes to your mind/life by different ways like repeating of similar event or the person comes in front of you. And whole purpose of just forgetting is defeated for you. Here, forgiveness comes as an important aspect for you than just forgetting.
ABCDEF7 · M
@kimmy159 Thanks :)
What I feel is that we all start with learning to forgive. So the depth we forgive differs from person to person with their experience & practice of forgiving. We are constantly learning to forgive at deeper levels with our new experiences. I hope, you might have also felt that.
When I was talking about the mindset to forgive. That mindset doesn't gets developed instantly. It takes you constant mental & emotional effort to overcome your default reactive mindset of not forgetting and hurting yourself with anger and frustration. Initially I also used to have pain and forgiving problems and it was a courageous exercise to forgive anyone, when I was in the process of developing that mindset.
What I feel is that we all start with learning to forgive. So the depth we forgive differs from person to person with their experience & practice of forgiving. We are constantly learning to forgive at deeper levels with our new experiences. I hope, you might have also felt that.
When I was talking about the mindset to forgive. That mindset doesn't gets developed instantly. It takes you constant mental & emotional effort to overcome your default reactive mindset of not forgetting and hurting yourself with anger and frustration. Initially I also used to have pain and forgiving problems and it was a courageous exercise to forgive anyone, when I was in the process of developing that mindset.
teachmetiger210503 · 36-40, M
You have a point.