Since the overturn of Roe V Wade, men in large numbers are getting vasectomies:

@missyann True that. It's dangerous for women to have babies as if they get complications and need to abort, they'll just die. So it's probably a good thing. Also the population could go down 👇 as far as I'm concerned, we have to many kids that need adoption just waiting for people like you

@SatanBurger no women are dying from the inability to have an abortion. There is no medical reason why a baby has to be directly intentionally, and deliberately killed to save a mother’s life. If she has a life-threatening condition that her pregnancy must end and the baby has a heartbeat An early induction or a C-section can and should be done and try to save both lives. An abortion requires surgery. Why not just do the C-section which is also a surgery? If the baby has no heartbeat, there is nothing illegal, preventing a doctor to treat a woman and remove the dead fetus..

You said earlier that you heard for yourself that Republicans said they wanted to kill women who got abortions. Where exactly did you hear this?

@missyann https://sph.tulane.edu/study-finds-higher-maternal-mortality-rates-states-more-abortion-restrictions

https://truthout.org/articles/sc-gop-reintroduces-bill-to-punish-people-getting-abortions-with-death-penalty/

@SatanBurger The way to decrease. Maternal mortality rate is to improve maternal pregnancy care, not abortions

most pro-life advocates would disagree, but I personally believe that women who seek abortions, should face the same punishment as anyone would receive for the crime of murder for hire. The one who actually does the murdering should be the one who receives the death penalty. I don’t look for this proposal to be accepted by GOP across the country

@missyann I'd like to get this out of the way first, there's been proposals for better child care but it always gets cast aside as communism. Even though other capitalist countries have free child care or some form of it. So those things have been proposed and shot down by conservatives many times.

If better maternal care is your answer, what was stopping them before? Having abortion legalized doesn't negate better child care in the first place. So nothing was stopping them before.

The fact of the matter is that anti abortionists de-prioritize women like their anti abortion countries counterparts.

With that out of the way, a lot of anti abortion countries have poor maternal care and that's a fact. The two go hand in hand. It's not always true but a lot of anti abortion beliefs are also tied to religion and a society devoted to patriarchy, which would in turn de-prioritize females by the very nature of anti abortionist views. A lot countries are that way and have poor maternal care as a result.

They were also going to ban ivf treatments and a lot of conservatives dislike contraceptives as they see it as a form of abortion.

Because the correlation between anti-abortion laws and poor maternal healthcare stems from broader systemic issues rather than the laws themselves being directly tied to the quality of healthcare.

Systemic issues like governments who choose to focus on restricting abortion may divert resources and attention away from improving maternal care, leading to gaps in overall women's health.

In countries with strict anti-abortion laws, maternal healthcare may not be adequately funded or prioritized, reflecting a lack of commitment to women's health more broadly. Comprehensive care, including prenatal and postnatal support, requires significant investment, which is often lacking.

Countries with anti-abortion laws often also restrict access to contraception, sexual education, and family planning. This lack of resources increases unplanned pregnancies and maternal mortality rates, especially in vulnerable populations.

Many countries with anti-abortion laws also have weaker healthcare systems overall, which affects maternal care as much as other areas of health. Poor infrastructure, limited access to hospitals, and a shortage of trained professionals exacerbate the issue.

Punitive vs. Supportive Approaches, those policies that outlaw abortion often focus on punitive measures rather than addressing the root causes of unplanned pregnancies or providing supportive healthcare for women. This can lead to unsafe abortions, which contribute to maternal mortality, and leave women with fewer options for care.

In countries where abortion is outlawed, women's perspectives and needs are often overlooked in policymaking. This lack of representation extends to healthcare policies, where women's specific health needs may not be adequately addressed.

It's not true that anti abortion always leads to poor maternal care as there are some anti-abortion countries with relatively good maternal healthcare, demonstrating that the correlation isn't absolute. However, these cases are often in nations where women's health is prioritized and supported in other ways, such as through robust social safety nets and accessible healthcare systems.

But given the other views that anti abortion conservatives also express religiously and societal, it's highly unlikely to have women's health being prioritized.

Plus what kind of people wouldn't understand the root causes of abortion when they're too busy criminalizing it? That never works.

@SatanBurger I couldn’t agree with you more that women’s healthcare is not prioritized. We must have better healthcare for pregnant women during and after their pregnancy especially the in lower income areas I don’t think sex education is a big priority as most people have phones and Internet access even lower income. Unfortunately kids are able to access anything they want about sex

I do believe in schools starting basic sex education starting in junior high. They need to understand about female body and male bodies and how pregnancy occurs. I also believe that they need to start seeing Films of first trimester second trimester and third trimester abortions every year through senior year. Along with films of young girls, giving birth, and how hard it is.

Pro-life advocates, all work in different aspects of abortion, and there is a group who work on advocating for better healthcare for women and I believe that something is going to be proposed and will go through in the next four years but pro l life must work harder on the healthcare issue

Pregnancy care centers are great for women who have unplanned and unplanned pregnancies they do work with women on applying with assistance programs, and they help with women who keep their babies, they help with the adoption program. The only thing they don’t assist with is abortion, and if we are honest, we will say that Planned Parenthood only offers abortion.

@missyann Planned parenthood provides prenatal and postpartum care as well as wellness and pregnancy planning and counseling. Abortion is only about 3% of what they do.

[@SatanBurger. ] You need to read focus on the family, pro life five misconceptions about Planned Parenthood Abby Johnson, who was once the Director of a large Houston Texas Planned Parenthood. She knows the facts. Planned Parenthood is not interested in women’s health care. Abortions is where they make their money.. but we need to work harder to ensure women have access to great healthcare

You really need to read about their support of sex trafficked victims. It is really sad.

If Planned Parenthood provided the full scope of women’s healthcare, but not much any abortions I would stand up and say they need to be 100% tax funded. Unfortunately the quality of tax funded facilities especially when it comes to healthcare it’s horrible. Because they’re so big moneymaker is providing abortions and wealthy donors. This is why these facilities are nice right now

Fact: a human life begins to exist at fertilization. It is a member of the human race. If it is growing and developing, it is alive. If it has implanted anywhere outside the uterus, it is an ectopic pregnancy. Which means it can never develop to birth, and can possibly put the mothers life in danger, so it must be removed. A threatened miscarriage can sometimes be prevented with hospitalization medication, and closely monitoring. Sometimes they can’t be stopped. If the baby still has a heartbeat, early induction or a C-section can be done even in cases when it’s too early for the baby to survive outside the mother, But doctors should do everything in their power to save both lives. If there is no longer a heartbeat the dead fetus must be removed from the mother to prevent life-threatening infection. Fetal anomalies do not justify deliberately and intentionally ending that babies life. Mistakes have been made from babies who were given no chance at survival live today. Most of these conditions are diagnosed after 21 weeks when the baby can survive outside the mother.. there is palliative care who ensures the baby will not experience pain during the dying process and it gives the family a chance to hold that baby. Even if the family does not want to see or hold that baby, it will be held by a palliative nurse, and will die in arms of love. Late term abortions take up to three days to complete Rape is the most brutal violation a woman can ever experience, but it is not the babies fault, and it shouldn’t have to pay for the sins of the father of. Fact: a lot of abortions, who are due to rape are not rape it is by women and girls who have acted irresponsible and just don’t want to accept the consequences of their actions

The only thing pro abortion can say is that they support a woman’s right to intentionally and deliberately end an innocent human life. If that’s what you believe, say that.