What a parlous state of affairs in the US regarding abortion

@DeWayfarer Unfortunately the US is spiraling out of control.
Incredibly sad to see what is happening.
What can be done if states are going against federal law?
Is it time to start imprisoning those state leaders who are driving this push?
To start taking away their powers and enact federal laws across the country?

@Gusman unfortunately states rights was one of the initial 10 rights of the bill of rights.

They have to change that tenth amendment before anything can be done.

@DeWayfarer Which is why the US will become a backwater 100 years down the track. There will be the super rich, and there will be the rest, fighting each other for survival.

@DeWayfarer Why arent pro abortion and pro life working together to ensure that a convicted rapist receives the harshest punishment? Why do we always go to killing the baby when you talk about rape and incest instead of talking about punishing those who are convicted

@missyann I think my initial comment made a possible answer at the end.

It's not the pro abortion stopping investigations. Or even getting the women needed Trained psychological help.

Yet anti abortionists don't want to pay the money for ANY OF THAT!

The money issue is the proof! They are always complaining that they are not going to pay for whatever!

And if they do they assign it to churches. Which is religious interference in a government issue.

Guess who is anti abortion? The churches have no place in a government issue.

There is such a thing as separation of church and state! No matter how any want to talk around it.

@DeWayfarer First of all, the separation of church and state simply means that the country will have no designated religion. This is why we have freedom.

Pro life gives more than you know . We do donate to, and for all kind of medical counseling, we have therapist who donate their time for women and their families. We offer counseling for women who have had abortion. How much do you think Planned Parenthood offers to pregnant women ? They offer abortions..

Churches give more than anybody else in the country. Who cares where the help comes from? When people need money for rent for utilities, they need clothes food and they go to a church and most churches, never close the door on someone in need. .. religion shouldn’t dictate laws in this country and they don’t. What they do is encourage morality to their congregation. Then the people vote with their conscience, ethics and morals.. every person has their own beliefs whether they are Christian, secular, or atheist. Politicians are no different.. they can say that their policies aren’t religious and, or ethical, beliefs but to expect them to not be motivated by their beliefs is crazy. All laws come from moral and ethical principles.

I’m sure our government wouldn’t know how and wouldn’t have the resources to help people if churches close their doors on giving

@missyann and ALL of that to push your beliefs. Because you know without it nobody would listen.

Religion IS designed to control. It's why their is the separation between church and state. There's no other reason why that is in the constitution.

In England the King is the head of the church! And still is the head of the church, ever since the US Constitution was even conceived.

Yet your funding is PARTLY coming from the US government.

Believe me there are many homeless that REFUSE to have anything to do with churches. Because you interfere and control them. By constantly pushing your values in everything.

Heck some are even doing it on this site by pushing bible quotes. No other religion than the Abrahamic religions does that type of pushing. And the non Christians are far far more numerous...


Christian's are so controlling that there has never been a non Christian US president. Yes Catholics are apart of that statistic above, the largest of all the Christian groups. And there's has only been one Catholic president that was shot to death. So a huge minority has been controlling the vast majority for most of that time.

Let the government handle the problems themselves for a change. Stop pushing your beliefs. What you are doing is being hyper aggressive. And therefore making the problems a whole lot worse.

It's not getting better, it's getting worse by the day, because of your interference.

94.8 million eligible people did not vote in 2020. And it was the highest voter turnout in decades.


That still means vast under representation. Just for that year alone. More than both Republican and Democrats put together by millions.

Yet you still wish push those same voters away with your religious interference. You don't want to make it easier to vote. You are still pushing harder not to vote.

Your religion is about doing NOTHING! Let god handle it. And so it gets worse and worse and worse!

All the clothing in the world does nothing. All the food in the world does nothing. All the prayers, eithics and so called psychological help in the world does nothing!

Without a place to stay!

It's why the term homeless has home in it! It's the one most important thing you refuse to give, that is KEY to everything else above.

Give them a home without religious interference, they don't need the rest. The government is already paying for what you give. Without a home the government won't have even place to send any paperwork.

Yet you make certain the government doesn't give them a home! Because it costs too much by your values. Because you can't push your values if they have a home! They can easily say to you "no thank you, I'm not interested" or not even open up the door!

You take advantage of them to push your values when they are homeless. I see this happening every day here! Even with loud speakers.

So the end result is bible prophecy fulfilled! That's your goal by pushing.

Stop pushing your values, let the people decide for themselves!

@DeWayfarer You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I couldn’t disagree more. To the best of my knowledge Churches don’t kidnap people and force them into their church. If they are at mass or services, it’s because they want to be there.

Most people see their religions beliefs as a peaceful safe haven that encourages them to want to live better. To give more of their time and or money to help those who need it

I suppose there are churches who do control their congregation but most organized religions don’t. . I personally don’t know of a church that tells someone that they will only receive help if they come to church.. We prefer to show them what kindness looks like.

You are going to have to make sure that a non Christian is nominated for president. Don’t blame religion. People vote. You gather some followers and speak out against Christian’s in Washington. I doubt it will do much but you never know if you don’t try.. especially get those “ evil Catholics “, you know, like biden and pelosi because we know they are snakes

@missyann lady every Saturday I have to avoid certain areas here. The reason isn't not just the Bible sermon.

It's so loud that it hurts my ears! This is occuring where the homeless stay!

And the city allows it! So they are apart of it. I don't want to even vote for the city officials. I can only imagine what their meetings are like.

They do this on purpose, to chase the homeless away. But it doesn't work. They have no place else to go.

How can a homeless person vote? 🤷🏻‍♂️

There are millions of homeless! They don't even want to track them all. So they'll say a hundred in round figures.

@DeWayfarer I’m trying to figure out if you’re pissed at religion, churches or God, oral three

I am so sorry that you’re homeless. I hate that for anyone.. I definitely understand why you are angry.

But I do have a question. Was the church there before the homeless started staying there ? If the church was there before the homeless, there’s nothing that can be done. The city absolutely cannot get involved because that would be separation between church and state. The government absolutely cannot tell people how they come worship God people have every right to worship god in their own way.. Now, if the church wasn’t there, when the homeless found a place to stay then the city would’ve had to approve them building a church, but I do have a feeling they would have allowed it.

Has anyone asked this church for help and been denied because you refused to go to the services?.

@missyann you have it wrong about me being homeless now. Yet I have been many times before.

I don't blame religion. I blame ORGANIZED religion because throughout history that has always been the case.

Organized religion is s about control.

I have no idea if this was true before I got here in August. Yet I have seen how religion controls throughout the USA. I have been in 40 states and in each state I have seen it. Even as a kid my father left a well known TV evangelical church over the control! And he himself was banned from talking to Jehovah's witnesses. He was convincing to many of their members against them.

One time I myself was even in a religious cult. Had to ask for help to get out of it. My father BTW!

Organized religion controls.

You want history? Find out why this country started with the puritans. You want more? Read about the Salom witch hunts. You want more? Read the scarlet letter. You want more? Read about the crusades. You want more? Read the beginnings of the Catholic Church around 400 ACE. You want more? Read about the Greeks and Socrates, around 400 BCE. And how they killed him for being blasphemous.

I can go on and on and on endlessly! It's ALL about control! Even with the Hebrews, Sumerians or Egyptians!

@DeWayfarer Most religions in their beginning, have a dark history. Being a Catholic, my whole life, I do realize and have been taught about the dark history of Catholicism, but I can tell you as a fact I being born in a member of the Catholic Church for over 40 years , that today’s catholic church is not controlling.. yes we have our dogma that teaches the seven sacraments two of those are holy communion and confession. But nobody stands there with a gun making you follow all the rules.. I don’t go to confession as often as the church teaches that I should. No priest is denying me communion.. but if you do come out publicly and support what we consider mortal sins, example, coming out publicly, and stating that you support the killing of unborn human lives, or support, killing any human life is considered the same as doing the killing, and you should be denied communion. A lot of Catholics are upset that Biden Pelosi, and other Catholics who support abortion aren’t denied holy communion.

I would consider Jehovah witness some work controlling, but they are not a cult, but most organized religions are not cult like. I don’t know of one that stands there with a gun and forces their members..
Cults on the other hand, like you stated you were anyou were a member of are controlling, and sometimes use violence. But you are wrong about organized religions.

@missyann If you aren’t homeless, then why does the church service hurt your ears? ??

@missyann you are missing the point. Control is not overt control, it has always been covert control!

@missyann please read my replies...

@DeWayfarer You said earlier that you weren’t homeless. How do you know how loud it is?

@DeWayfarer Well, then you better stay as far away from it as you can. Find as many people as you can who agree with you, protest, and try to convince the people that they’re. Being controlled like sheep. Other than that I don’t know what you can do.

@Gusman they did that. Then California said FU we’re gunna sell legal weed . Then Seattle said FU we are a sanctuary city . Then Alabama said FU abortion is illegal . Then Texas said FU we are closing the border . What good are fed laws if states don’t follow them ?

@DeWayfarer when California sells legal weed it’s good. When Seattle calls itself a sanctuary city it’s good .
When Bama makes abortion illegal it’s bad. When Texas enforces the border it’s bad .
Thats what’s called hypocrisy. Either you support states rights or you don’t .

@DeWayfarer what the fu(k is going on in this country? Overpopulation proves the necessity of abortion. Given the most common outcomes with incest and rape genetic anomalies and no male role model/criminal intent; respectively. Certainly there is a revolution needed in that state. Were sny oftheir representatives born in the 1800s? Probably

@AthrillatheHunt They don’t even realize the hypocrisy. It is sad, but I think some of them have sold their souls just for the right to intentionally and deliberately kill innocent human lives

@missyann
You don't even want to understand what I say! Do you!

I walk. I don't have a car! But I'm not homeless.


That's why I am on this site! And people like you are the sheep!


See! Everything you want is about control!

You can't leave people alone! There's no hypocrisy when you leave people alone.

This doesn't make any sense though.


Who and what do you mean? Obama? Making abortion illegal? Your mixing things up!

That's your friend Donald the religious hypocrite! Selling Bibles when he himself doesn't believe!

@DeWayfarer it wasn’t me who bama it was althrillatbeHUNT

OK, you’re not homeless, but you seem militant to me. Why do you walk by a place that offends you? Someone who hates alcohol shouldn’t walk past a liquor store bar either. Does somebody have you on a leash I and pulling you to walk past this church.?

It doesn’t sound to me like they want to control you. It seems like you want to control them and tell them how to worship