Can someone explain the benefits of outlawing abortion?

In the 49 years Roe v. Wade was in place, the crime rate in the U.S. plummeted, the overall standard of living went up, more people were educated, technology advanced, and women and minorities enjoyed greater equality. The U.S. also became the sole superpower. You can argue that none of these were related to abortion, but that suggests abortion has no effect on anything. Some of the negative outcomes of outlawing abortion could be:

Increase in the maternal death rate for women who needed abortions for their own health-related reasons
Increase in the infant death rate for children with genetic defects who otherwise would have been aborted
increase in abandoned children and "dumpster babies"
Increase in poverty and child abuse of unwanted children
Growth of a black market in abortion, from "back alley" clinics, drug dealers selling abortion pills, and legitimate doctors performing abortions for their patients
Lower birth rates as more women opt for sterilization out of fear that they won't be able to have an abortion if they need one

So what are the benefits? I'm not looking for abstract platitudes like "increased respect for life" or other vague pronouncements. Abortion is illegal in Guatemala, but I wouldn't point to that country as one where life is respected. I'm asking for specific, concrete benefits. This may be difficult as countries where abortion is illegal tend to have less individual liberty and prosperity than countries where it's legal or at least easily accessible (for example, abortion is illegal in Malta, but Maltese women have an abortion rate similar to other EU countries because they simply go to Italy for their abortions).

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Roundandroundwego · 61-69

Of course. Women should live without sex unless they're married to a man with money who agrees to pay for the unnecessary human offspring that could result. It's not practical to do anything else under this regime.

Notanymore · 41-45, M

@Roundandroundwego are you aware of the new technology and a few ways women can have sex without risking pregnancy?

Handfull1 · 61-69, F

@Roundandroundwego can you imagine how many Trump has probably paid for while preaching to his base??

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

@Handfull1 can you imagine I went to the same prep academy as Trump, where sex was against the rules but all chicks had to take the pill and the teachers were doing the hot ones?

Handfull1 · 61-69, F

@Roundandroundwego seriously??

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

@Handfull1 does it sound humorous or fictional? The Choate sex scandal was disappeared over and over since 1960. Through this year. The shtupping of kids went on for decades and Choate apologized.

Handfull1 · 61-69, F

@Roundandroundwego I’d have to look it up I guess.

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Handfull1 · 61-69, F

@Roundandroundwego interesting! I glanced at some articles about it. What we all don’t know!! Ugh

LeopoldBloom · M

@Notanymore Why is it on the woman? Men are involved too you know.

How about this - whatever penalty is imposed on women for having abortions, the father suffers the exact same penalty. If she goes to prison because she couldn't prove her miscarriage wasn't an illegal abortion, he goes to prison too.

Notanymore · 41-45, M

@LeopoldBloom because dude said women would have to choose not to have sex. I think men have equal responsibility over birth control or a child should it happen.

LeopoldBloom · M

@Notanymore Actually, men have more responsibility, because a man knows if he ejaculates or not. A woman can't be 100% certain if she's ovulating.

Notanymore · 41-45, M

@LeopoldBloom considering, that any woman should be fully aware that anytime she has sex with a man, if no forms of contraception are used, she can become pregnant. I'd say she has as much of a responsibility for making sure that doesn't happen, unless intended.

Handfull1 · 61-69, F

@Notanymore probably equal responsibility if consensual. Not all contraceptives work, none 100%. That leaves abstinence which will never happen either.

Notanymore · 41-45, M

@Handfull1 okay......

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

@Notanymore you folks always did work together to bury and hide the child rape at Choate. Nothing New. At Amherst College didn't you folks just cough and mumble a lot?

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

@Handfull1 who decides to bury the child rape allegations again for Choate? Group posting! So collegial.

Handfull1 · 61-69, F

@Roundandroundwego I have no idea. Never heard about it until now.

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

@Handfull1 course not. But teams will post until the fact that Choate apologized repeatedly for raping the kids disappears vertically. Always. Everywhere they don't say Amherst is a rape college. Everywhere- and you still don't know anything about it - right? Because me talking is just another of the thousand kids who talked.