There is no such thing as abortion up until birth.
It's not a thing that happens. Never. Ever.
This page is a permanent link to the reply below and its nested replies. See all post replies »
missyann · 56-60
Yes there actually are 3rd trimester abortions. According to the CDC approximately 13,000 annually. This means that thousands of fully developed babies that are viable outside the womb are intentionally and deliberately killed.
Only a small number are these are because they fetal anomalies or the actual health of the mother. Not one baby in modern times has had to be intentionally and deliberately killed to save a mother’s life. Most conditions that would be considered an emergency happen after 24 weeks when an early induction or a c section should be done to save both lives.
Only a small number are these are because they fetal anomalies or the actual health of the mother. Not one baby in modern times has had to be intentionally and deliberately killed to save a mother’s life. Most conditions that would be considered an emergency happen after 24 weeks when an early induction or a c section should be done to save both lives.
1-25 of 43
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@missyann You're quoting LILA ROSE from a 2016 article. Rose is an anti-abortion extremist who only believes in sex for procreation and that life begins at conception, no exceptions for rape or incest. She poses as an abortion-seeking teen impregnated by an older men in stings at Planned Parenthood
The third trimester is 27 to 40 weeks, the end of the pregnancy.
Nearly all abortions in 2020 took place early in gestation: 93.1% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (5.8%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (0.9%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
The fear of abortions until birth is not based on any evidence. There is 19 weeks to go and it's 1%. Many are from women who couldn't get an abortion earlier.
The third trimester is 27 to 40 weeks, the end of the pregnancy.
Nearly all abortions in 2020 took place early in gestation: 93.1% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (5.8%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (0.9%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
The fear of abortions until birth is not based on any evidence. There is 19 weeks to go and it's 1%. Many are from women who couldn't get an abortion earlier.
ElwoodBlues · M
@missyann [quote] This means that thousands of fully developed babies that are viable outside the womb are intentionally and deliberately killed.[/quote] Nope. Wrong.
3rd trimester abortions only happen when the fetus isn't viable. And I and many others will only accept first trimester abortions and non-viable fetus abortions.
These days we're seeing medical cases where women are being forced to carry literally dead fetuses around at great risk to their health because stupid law-makers wrote stupid laws.
[quote] Marlena Stell recently spoke to CNN about her "gut-wrenching" miscarriage and how she was forced to carry her dead fetus for two weeks after a ... [/quote]
[quote] Kylie Beaton must carry an unviable pregnancy to its end due to Texas' highly restrictive abortion ban. [/quote]
[quote] Nancy Davis, 36 ... had learned 10 weeks into her pregnancy that the fetus she was carrying had acrania, a rare and fatal condition in which the baby’s skull fails to form in the womb.
... The physicians located in Davis’ hometown of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, advised her to get an abortion, but said they could not perform the procedure. [/quote]
3rd trimester abortions only happen when the fetus isn't viable. And I and many others will only accept first trimester abortions and non-viable fetus abortions.
These days we're seeing medical cases where women are being forced to carry literally dead fetuses around at great risk to their health because stupid law-makers wrote stupid laws.
[quote] Marlena Stell recently spoke to CNN about her "gut-wrenching" miscarriage and how she was forced to carry her dead fetus for two weeks after a ... [/quote]
[quote] Kylie Beaton must carry an unviable pregnancy to its end due to Texas' highly restrictive abortion ban. [/quote]
[quote] Nancy Davis, 36 ... had learned 10 weeks into her pregnancy that the fetus she was carrying had acrania, a rare and fatal condition in which the baby’s skull fails to form in the womb.
... The physicians located in Davis’ hometown of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, advised her to get an abortion, but said they could not perform the procedure. [/quote]
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
JSul3 · 70-79
@missyann So are sperm cells life? Are eggs life?
A zygote is not a human....an embryo is not a human....a fetus is not a human.
Ok...you hate abortion....don't get one....but you or anyone else has the right to tell a woman what to do.
Until that baby is born, nobody outside the mother, should have any say in the matter.
A zygote is not a human....an embryo is not a human....a fetus is not a human.
Ok...you hate abortion....don't get one....but you or anyone else has the right to tell a woman what to do.
Until that baby is born, nobody outside the mother, should have any say in the matter.
missyann · 56-60
@JSul3 Sperm and eggs are alive, but cannot reproduce on their own, they have to fuse to create life.
Human Zygote embryo fetus are stages of human development. They do not develop into a different species. No different from saying infant toddler adolescent and adult .
Don’t want to molest a child, don’t but you have no right to tell your neighbor who you know is not to. Every person has the right and responsibility to protect human life and this includes women and girls who are struggling with unwanted pregnancy. There are people and organizations who live to do this. No woman has to go through it alone.
Human Zygote embryo fetus are stages of human development. They do not develop into a different species. No different from saying infant toddler adolescent and adult .
Don’t want to molest a child, don’t but you have no right to tell your neighbor who you know is not to. Every person has the right and responsibility to protect human life and this includes women and girls who are struggling with unwanted pregnancy. There are people and organizations who live to do this. No woman has to go through it alone.
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire Science, even pro abortion says that human life begins at conception. Religion not to mention the law of our country says that deliberately and intentionally ending a human life is a crime called murder.
I really want to see your perspective, I just want to see the complete stories from Drs and hospitals saying why women dying being denied abortions. Was there Any other treatment or procedures that could be done ? and were these offered ? If not why ? I don’t want any woman to die from pregnancy but Asking for information is not denying that you are telling the truth but denying to provide information tells me that either you don’t have it or there isn’t enough to prove your point. There are medical specialists in every hospital that aren’t afraid and never question treatment to save a mother’s life
I’m not proud. I have admitted many times that I was wrong once I seen the proof of what I believed was wrong
I really want to see your perspective, I just want to see the complete stories from Drs and hospitals saying why women dying being denied abortions. Was there Any other treatment or procedures that could be done ? and were these offered ? If not why ? I don’t want any woman to die from pregnancy but Asking for information is not denying that you are telling the truth but denying to provide information tells me that either you don’t have it or there isn’t enough to prove your point. There are medical specialists in every hospital that aren’t afraid and never question treatment to save a mother’s life
I’m not proud. I have admitted many times that I was wrong once I seen the proof of what I believed was wrong
LordShadowfire · M
@missyann [quote]I really want to see your perspective, I just want to see the complete stories from Drs and hospitals saying why women dying being denied abortions.[/quote]
Fair enough. I'll see what I can dig up.
Fair enough. I'll see what I can dig up.
JSul3 · 70-79
@missyann Life....cells are not human beings.
Many Catholics, led by the Pope, do not believe in any form of contraception.
The Hyde Amendment protects a viable fetus.....but again, not every pregnancy results in a healthy baby. Many things can happen and it should not be anyone's decision but the mother along with the consultation and advice of her physician.
Many Catholics, led by the Pope, do not believe in any form of contraception.
The Hyde Amendment protects a viable fetus.....but again, not every pregnancy results in a healthy baby. Many things can happen and it should not be anyone's decision but the mother along with the consultation and advice of her physician.
LordShadowfire · M
@missyann
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/03/health/texas-abortion-law-mother-cnnphotos/
https://abcnews.go.com/US/delayed-denied-women-pushed-deaths-door-abortion-care/story?id=105563255
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/03/19/1239376395/louisiana-abortion-ban-dangerously-disrupting-pregnancy-miscarriage-care
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/03/health/texas-abortion-law-mother-cnnphotos/
https://abcnews.go.com/US/delayed-denied-women-pushed-deaths-door-abortion-care/story?id=105563255
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/03/19/1239376395/louisiana-abortion-ban-dangerously-disrupting-pregnancy-miscarriage-care
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire Thank you. I just need to read them. I hope they have statements from the Drs and hospitals
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire #1 story Fetal anomalies are not life threatening and don’t warrant abortions. If Halo would have been aborted, she would have been violently dismembered and I’m certain the parents wouldn’t have held her limbs and head and said goodbye. She would have been thrown in the trash. Instead she died in the arms of love. The parents even made a plaster print of her little hands
#2 Again fetal anomalies don’t warrant abortion. placenta previa is is a serious condition but if they find it early it sometimes can be managed ( I have seen this in a family member ) If she would have miscarried and if the pregnancy hadn’t completely passed she would have had a D&C which is legal. If removing the pregnancy was absolutely necessary the Dr’s would have agreed. Dr’s know that miscarriage treatment is legal. They wouldn’t have to question it
# 3. Again if she was indeed having a miscarriage Dr’s can use medication ( the abortion pill ).this is not being used for the only purpose to end the pregnancy. It is being used to pass a non viable fetus. Yes there is pain and bleeding with a miscarriage but also with a natural healthy birth. She was able to pass it at home
It seems like these women wanted abortions. They weren’t life threatening and abortion was not the only option.
If the babies are non viable in utero no matter what week early induction and or D&C can legally be done if the woman doesn’t pass it on her own in a safe way and time
#2 Again fetal anomalies don’t warrant abortion. placenta previa is is a serious condition but if they find it early it sometimes can be managed ( I have seen this in a family member ) If she would have miscarried and if the pregnancy hadn’t completely passed she would have had a D&C which is legal. If removing the pregnancy was absolutely necessary the Dr’s would have agreed. Dr’s know that miscarriage treatment is legal. They wouldn’t have to question it
# 3. Again if she was indeed having a miscarriage Dr’s can use medication ( the abortion pill ).this is not being used for the only purpose to end the pregnancy. It is being used to pass a non viable fetus. Yes there is pain and bleeding with a miscarriage but also with a natural healthy birth. She was able to pass it at home
It seems like these women wanted abortions. They weren’t life threatening and abortion was not the only option.
If the babies are non viable in utero no matter what week early induction and or D&C can legally be done if the woman doesn’t pass it on her own in a safe way and time
1-25 of 43