Missouri proposes outlawing abortion for ectopic pregnancies

@SW-User Well that is something, at least…the very least. “We’ll let them save your life, then".

@SW-User Yes, if the woman is at the point of death, they will remove the ZEF if there are no other options.

Any plans to investigate every miscarriage as a potential homicide?

@SW-User I don’t trust them, they have not established a reason to trust in what they say, based on their actions.

@Deceased IThe OP is a lie to begin with

@Deceased Agreed.

@bijouxbroussard They like to equate themselves with the original abolitionists. What's ironic is the modern pro-life movement is a direct outgrowth of the segregationist movement - it's literally the same people. And of course segregation itself was a remnant of slavery and Jim Crow. If pro-lifers could be transported back to early America, they'd be on the side of the slave owners.

And calling abortion "genocide" is ludicrous. ZEFs aren't a specific religious or ethnic group and the goal of legal abortion isn't to annihilate the entire human race.

@DDonde
I disagree. America has always been an autocratic country. When it was founded it restricted human and civil rights to only a fraction of the people. And then it was an oppressive apartheid state for over 100 years. Today it is trying to restrict women's human and civil rights.

@Diotrephes Absolutely not. The main character of autocracy is the consolidation of power into a single indiviudal. The entire point of our government system is to avoid this. Do you not understand the meaning of the word autocracy?

@DDonde
The intent and outcome is the same. A loud mouth spews crap and the people go along with it because the loud mouth is giving them what they want, which is usually to screw over other segments of the population. You see that happening right now in the Red States. They were like that in the past and they haven't changed. It might seem like a democracy but it is just another dictatorship in a nicer dress.

@ninalanyon Short for zygote/embryo/fetus. The term is common on Reddit subs that discuss abortion on both sides.

@LeopoldBloom Thank you, I wish people would avoid abbreviations, or at least define then on first use in a post. I'm probably guilty too :-(

@ninalanyon Good point. ZEF may not be well known outside of Reddit.

@RocktheHouse Tell that to Lindsey Graham.

@RocktheHouse Actually, the modern pro-life movement developed out of the segregation movement. Pro-lifers are the heirs of the slave owners. Pro life dismisses women as not being entirely human just as their predecessors dismissed Black people.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/05/the-religious-right-formed-around-support-for-segregation-not-against-abortion.html

Pro-life seeks to enslave women by forcing them to serve as incubators for ZEFs that pro-lifers don't care about after they're born. Pro-life is moral degeneracy.

@RocktheHouse States have the "degree of sovereignty" that a handful of unelected Federalist Society hacks grant to them. One day we will have a liberal SCOTUS, and a state will outlaw guns for anyone who is not a member of a "well-regulated militia," and you people will throw a bigger tantrum than you did when Traitor Tot lost.

@RocktheHouse The fact that some asshat even considered it for five seconds, let alone proposing a bill, proves that the so-called "pro-life" movement's claim that they will allow abortion to save the mother's life is BS. And ten states don't allow exceptions in cases of rape. Pro-life is based on nothing more than depraved cruelty.