MaBalzEsHari · 36-40, M
In fact............
The retirement age of 65 was established primarily due to historical influences from Germany, where it was initially set at 70 before being lowered to 65 in 1916. This change was influenced by the need to adapt to the prevailing retirement standards and the actuarial studies that showed using age 65 was more manageable for our Social Security system. The decision to adopt age 65 as the standard retirement age in the U.S. was also influenced by the Great Depression, as many people were struggling to find employment and needed a reliable source of income.
The retirement age of 65 was established primarily due to historical influences from Germany, where it was initially set at 70 before being lowered to 65 in 1916. This change was influenced by the need to adapt to the prevailing retirement standards and the actuarial studies that showed using age 65 was more manageable for our Social Security system. The decision to adopt age 65 as the standard retirement age in the U.S. was also influenced by the Great Depression, as many people were struggling to find employment and needed a reliable source of income.
exchrist · 36-40
@MaBalzEsHari okay and most people never reached retirement age? Let alone refusing to retire simply to stay out of prison.
swirlie · 31-35
The retirement age of 60 had been in place in the airline industry for pilots until about 5 years ago, where that age was then raised to 65. This was done to mitigate a pilot shortage that was happening after Covid hit and commercial pilots were laid off, never to return after finding employment outside the industry.
It was only last week that I read of a proposal for that retirement age of 65 to be further-raised to 67 to again mitigate the pilot shortage still being experienced across the world.
Where the age of 60 first got started in the airline industry is what followed from a 20 year test that had been conducted by NASA.
What NASA concluded was that the average life expectancy of a commercial pilot who flew a steady diet of overseas flying which included several years of constant time zone changes, yielded an average life expectancy of 62 years of age.
This meant that if a pilot retired at the age of 60, he would be dead by the time he hit 62.
What this also meant was that if a pilot retired at the age of 65, he would still be dead by the time he hit 62, but hopefully that would happen in his backyard while cutting the grass, not while on final approach to London Heathrow.
If that same pilot only flew at NIGHT which included overseas flying with multiple time zone changes and slept during the day while off duty, his life expectancy declined to 55 years of a age on average if his career involved a schedule of all-night flying as a steady diet.
For that reason, the maximum age that a pilot could fly as a Captain of a commercial flight became 60 years of age which was established back in the late `60's, early 1970's, at which point the law required that he retire from commercial aviation at age 60.
The thing is, nothing has changed from the original NASA tests that were conducted, yet the meaning of those tests have been tossed to the wind in favor of allowing pilots to now Captain commercial aircraft up to the age of 67 and co-pilot commercial aircraft up to the age of 71 before being forced to retire through mandatory retirement laws embedded within the Air Navigation Orders which govern global aviation!
So, "put up your feet!", you say?
Tell me that with a straight face while sitting beside each other in First Class and then we'll talk!
It was only last week that I read of a proposal for that retirement age of 65 to be further-raised to 67 to again mitigate the pilot shortage still being experienced across the world.
Where the age of 60 first got started in the airline industry is what followed from a 20 year test that had been conducted by NASA.
What NASA concluded was that the average life expectancy of a commercial pilot who flew a steady diet of overseas flying which included several years of constant time zone changes, yielded an average life expectancy of 62 years of age.
This meant that if a pilot retired at the age of 60, he would be dead by the time he hit 62.
What this also meant was that if a pilot retired at the age of 65, he would still be dead by the time he hit 62, but hopefully that would happen in his backyard while cutting the grass, not while on final approach to London Heathrow.
If that same pilot only flew at NIGHT which included overseas flying with multiple time zone changes and slept during the day while off duty, his life expectancy declined to 55 years of a age on average if his career involved a schedule of all-night flying as a steady diet.
For that reason, the maximum age that a pilot could fly as a Captain of a commercial flight became 60 years of age which was established back in the late `60's, early 1970's, at which point the law required that he retire from commercial aviation at age 60.
The thing is, nothing has changed from the original NASA tests that were conducted, yet the meaning of those tests have been tossed to the wind in favor of allowing pilots to now Captain commercial aircraft up to the age of 67 and co-pilot commercial aircraft up to the age of 71 before being forced to retire through mandatory retirement laws embedded within the Air Navigation Orders which govern global aviation!
So, "put up your feet!", you say?
Tell me that with a straight face while sitting beside each other in First Class and then we'll talk!
exchrist · 36-40
@swirlie its unfortunate there is such a shortage of pilots. It seems to precisely depicted the issue with the modern labor market and society at large. We need younger employees to step up fill these high demand positions. Unfortunately that is not happening. I wonder if affordability of the training needed to get training necessary to become a pilot is whats preventing younger pilots from getting trained?
Idk but allowing pilots to retire later, though necessary, might prevent future pilots seeking training. Ultimately it will change to automated airplanes. Killing jobs. High paying jobs too.
Idk but allowing pilots to retire later, though necessary, might prevent future pilots seeking training. Ultimately it will change to automated airplanes. Killing jobs. High paying jobs too.
I wonder if anyone retired in 1800's? seems unlikely.
StygianKohlrabi · M
has Frankie Valli heard?