Life and death and guns

@wildbill83 Yes worship your killers; pray to your guns; allow kids and women to be murdered so you can strut around and pretend you are macho. And invade the UK? Don't make me laugh!

@HarrietteSpeedy yes... lecture us about our guns while you celebrate a royal inbred family that enslaved millions and caused more death and destruction than any gun...

So when are you celebrating Henry VIII day? you know, the king that beheaded two of his six wives and had 57,000 of his citizens executed...🤔

Or George III day? The tyrannical oppressive king that is the reason we have guns to begin with... 🤔

@wildbill83 These people are dead and our laws have changed. Thank God. We grew up and put limits on the royals.
Now they have no real power. Power lies with parliament and the democracy of the votes. We progressed and matured.
Time you did the same.

@HarrietteSpeedy [quote]We progressed and matured.[/quote]🤣🤣🤣

@wildbill83 Indeed; we put shackles on the royals, improved democracy, introduced an NHS and better provisions for safety (though not yet perfect) and banned lethal weapons.

@HarrietteSpeedy [quote]banned lethal weapons[/quote]

just about anything can be used as a lethal weapon with the knowledge and will to use them...

even a rock can be a lethal weapon, did you ban those? 🤔

@wildbill83 No- just the most lethal ones - guns for instance.

@HarrietteSpeedy The guns of Americans have already save the UK, twice.

@Roadsterrider And now they are killing more people IN the USA than all the US wars of the past fifty years.

@HarrietteSpeedy And more people die in automobile accidents than from firearms. My opinion is that before I am willing to give up a right more deadly things that are a privilege should be addressed first and that laws concerning criminal activity are followed before creating more laws.

@HarrietteSpeedy [quote]killing more people IN the USA than all the US wars of the past fifty years.[/quote]

more hyberbole...

Abortion has killed more than both world wars combined, what is your stance on that?

medical malpractice/error is the 3rd leading cause of death (after cancer and heart disease), killing over 250,000 a year, what is your stance on that?

pretty easy to blame and vilify gunowners when you ignore facts...🤔

@wildbill83 The topic is gun control. By diverting onto other things, I assume you are suggesting you don't care about the tens of thousands of gun deaths?
You are avoiding the issue here .

@Roadsterrider Which is irrelevant to gun deaths.

@HarrietteSpeedy guns aren't the problem either; the problem is people, you're the one diverting the issue along with every other "gun control" advocate...

@HarrietteSpeedy not sure what you gun control advocates don't get... guns will [b]never[/b] be eliminated in the US; they're our Constitutional right and a part of our culture; and even in the unrealistic chance that they were banned, that wouldn't eliminate ownership; and no one, no politician, law enforcement, military, etc. in the world has the balls nor ability to even attempt a door to door gun grab. We're talking about 3/4 of our population, 230 million people that own firearms in the USA; and your solution is to alienate, and criminalize all of them?

you people are terrified of a single, undisciplined, untrained shooter with a single gun? Imagine what a few million pissed off, trained, experienced, gunowners could do to any threat to our liberties...

40,000 militiamen armed with muskets kicked the shit out of England (which by all regards had the most powerful military in the world at the time) in the American Revolution...

So again, a gun ban is [b]never going to happen[/b]; so quit barking about it...

@wildbill83 So you are condemning your nation to anarchy and constant murders because of a law passed two and a quarter centuries ago. How backward is that.

Your history is a bit skewed as well. The British (Not English - a totally different entity) military was probably one of the weakest in Europe, with a tiny standing army and no conscription. And Britain was not only fighting the American terrorists (think Taleban there) but, more importantly, France (with the most powerful military in the world), Spain, the Netherlands and Mysore. Add the armed neutrality of the Northern Powers to taste.
Without France, the terrorists and malcontents would have lost (or run away, most likely)

But the history of a long past colonial campaign is another distraction from the real question here of gun control in the present day United States, with is gun worship and disregard for the highest murder rate in the western world.