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If you came from nothing and return to nothing when you die why do you want to debate?

Atheists fail again to be logical.
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Budwick70-79, M
It seems to me sometimes that atheists have a deep seated need to be the smartest one in the room - the world, THE UNIVERSE!

I believe they think they have everything worked out and are not about to take a back seat to someone they can NOT explain or figure out.

So, they do the next best thing and challenge believers to explain the inexplicable, using their preset parameters.

Social media gives them the bonus of other atheists to pile on when they target some believer that stumbled onto their path.
Entwistle56-60, M
@Budwick Not all atheists believe they came from nothing and will return to nothing. It's a silly assumption to make.
Budwick70-79, M
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Entwistle So if not from nothing then from what? Atheists believe there is no God/Creator. So other than some unexplained cosmic accident which is the result of nothing becoming something for no reason.
Kwek0041-45, M
@Budwick
It seems to me sometimes that atheists have a deep seated need to be the smartest one in the room - the world, THE UNIVERSE!

Not really, but this such a pathetic attempt to keep verry bad arguments, irrational ideas alive. It's like saying: "you are wrong, because you make more sense and therefore I perceive you as arrogant".

I believe they think they have everything worked out and are not about to take a back seat to someone they can NOT explain or figure out.

Not really... because the point is, that we didn't have it figured all out. It's such a stupid point to make, because it's theological position that believes everything is explained by just mentioning God and saying God doesn't have to be explained.

So, they do the next best thing and challenge believers to explain the inexplicable, using their preset parameters.

Because believers that influence our social enviorement. Have put up rules for everyone derived from scripture... can't explain themselves. Because the believes they hold are irrational. But even though the believes are irriational they still have to determine the social enviorement they live in. If you want to influence annyones life by making up rules... You should at least have the dignity to make some sense.

Social media gives them the bonus of other atheists to pile on when they target some believer that stumbled onto their path.

Poor man... engaging in fora that discuss the problems that theology and science have with eachother... and feeling ganged up because people participate in the conversation. Poor poor man. 馃槄 What a fucking joke. 馃槀
Entwistle56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 From the previous moment. The nature of mind..look how one moment leads to another..awareness. The natural state of awareness,before conceptions arise. The movie is in the projector not on the screen!
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Entwistle So where did the projector come from and who made the movie?
Entwistle56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 They are labels created by the mind.
As are all things perceived.
Budwick70-79, M
@Kwek00
Poor man... engaging in fora that discuss the problems that theology and science have with eachother... and feeling ganged up because people participate in the conversation. Poor poor man. 馃槄 What a fucking joke.

I guess you meant 'what a fucking joke' in the good way, right?
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Entwistle So where did the mind come from? How did it form? Why is it contained within the physical?
Entwistle56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 Mind isn't physical,surely you know that? Mind..awareness comes from the previous moment of awareness. There is no beginning to mind.
Entwistle56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 Mind is formless. It has no form.
CarazaaF
@Entwistle
There are many things that are absolute! God, that we are sinners, that Jesus rose from the dead to save us from certain spiritual death and he will come again soon, in-fact very soon to judge us! I hope you reconsider Jesus and that he wants to pay the fine for your sins! All you need to do is say sorry for my sins and I believe that you rose from the dead and have defeated death!
Entwistle56-60, M
@Carazaa But I don't believe those thing so I won't say them.
CarazaaF
Entwistle56-60, M
@Carazaa Death is a temporary state. All states are temporary.
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Entwistle Explain please. Reincarnation?
Entwistle56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 No. Rebirth. A very different idea.
Even you Christians believe death isnt permanent ...don't you?
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Entwistle Ok explain rebirth and how it is different from reincarnation.
CarazaaF
@Entwistle
God tells us that everything that we see is temporary, but everything we don鈥檛 see is permanent! We have a just God who will not put up with sin against him or people. He will punish that!
Entwistle56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 Rebirth is the constant change from moment to moment. Reincarnation is the belief a soul transmigrates from life to life.
In reality nothing lasts for even a moment..nothing is fixed or unchanging.
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Entwistle So none of your memories are real.
CarazaaF
@Entwistle Nope! You will live in permanent punishment for your sins after death or go to heaven because Jesus paid your fine!
Entwistle56-60, M
@Carazaa God doesnt tell me anything as he doesn't exist. There is no fixed personality or person for him to punish or reward.
CarazaaF
@Entwistle
No you are wrong!
Entwistle56-60, M
@Carazaa Nothing is permanent. If something has a beginning it has an ending..even your faith in God will have an ending..why?..because it had a beginning.