New York Times just reported a new poll. 64% of all Democrats don't want Biden to run again. 95% of Democrats under 30 don't want him to run again.
Does he have a chance in 2024?
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Ontheroad · M
I pretty much discount polls anymore, but I never thought Joe would be more than a one term President. He was the best choice (at the time) to beat Trump and that was it. I voted for him for that reason, but I know there needs to be a stronger person in the White House. Joe would have done a much better job had the Democrats had just a couple more seats in the Senate, but it didn't happen. As it is, his hands are mostly tied. People just don't seem to understand how little power a President has without there being both a House and Senate that will support him and his policies. Much of the displeasure Independents and Democrats are now showing for Joe isn't through him not trying, it's because there is nothing a President can do about many of the ills in our country or because he can't get much of anything through the Senate.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Ontheroad I don't disagree with any of that but don't you think it was incredibly naive of him (to put it nicely) to waste nearly two years of his Presidency , and burn through all that poltical capital and goodwill , trying to appeal to the better nature (ahem) of Republicans in the hope of securing their support for his grandiose plans , when he could have been doing something much more meaningful instead ?
Ontheroad · M
@RodionRomanovitch I didn't say he made wise decisions, didn't even suggest he did. In fact, I think he was surprised by the opposition he encountered. Shouldn't have been, but I think he was.
What do you think he could have got past the Senate or on his own (executive power) that was much more meaningful?
The Democratic Party began floundering when President Obama took office. They did not expect, not at all, the opposition they would face when a Black person was put in the White House. If they don't get their act together and begin getting down in the trenches and fighting, the Republicans will be the dominant force in our Federal government. They have already shown what they are capable of. People need to wake up.
What do you think he could have got past the Senate or on his own (executive power) that was much more meaningful?
The Democratic Party began floundering when President Obama took office. They did not expect, not at all, the opposition they would face when a Black person was put in the White House. If they don't get their act together and begin getting down in the trenches and fighting, the Republicans will be the dominant force in our Federal government. They have already shown what they are capable of. People need to wake up.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Ontheroad I think he should have spent that time organising a coherent strategy against the attack on voting rights and , what he must have known was coming , the SC abortion ruling. And he should have moved heaven and earth to get the recalcitrants in his own party to get rid of the filibuster. If he'd have put as much energy into that as trying to cajole his old Republican buddies in the Senate we might be in a very different place today.
Ontheroad · M
@RodionRomanovitch I don't disagree, but but I doubt seriously Manchin could have been swayed and he alone held the vote needed for those actions. The voting rights issues and Rove v Wade were never something he or the Democrats had any say so in, not since Trump and Mcconnell stacked the deck in the SCOTUS.