Asking
Only logged in members can reply and interact with the post.
Join SimilarWorlds for FREE »

Should "libs" condemn violence?

I think it's kind of sad to ask the question, but we're dealing with a really perplexing environment these days.

I'm pretty sure Biden won't be talking about pardoning the guy, but I'm also sort of thinking that's a weakness.



https://www.newsweek.com/beer-can-thrown-ted-cruz-classified-deadly-weapon-court-records-1758007
BlueVeins · 22-25
The Democratic Party -- and especially the liberal wing of which -- is broadly unprepared for what's coming. Large scale political violence is inevitable at this point. The Republicans don't believe in rules and they want absolute power; there's no other way for that situation to resolve itself.

If Biden had all the Republicans who voted against the Jan 6th commission arrested and put to death, it would be completely justified. Question in my mind is what level of violence is strategically advantageous. Someone definitely needs to go out there and warm liberals up to the idea of assaulting people, but I'm not sure it should be the President; it would be too jarring after all this time, and he'd be putting a very important reputation on the line. If I was some kind of puppet master of the DNC, I'd have the talking heads on CNN & MSNBC come out in favor of throwing beer cans, citing the extreme risk of fascism. Let people get mad, let it blow over, and then escalate like the Republicans have been doing.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@BlueVeins I am well aware of the way the far right packed the SCOTUS. We can look at the pending cases and throw up. We are headed into chaos.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@samueltyler2 who would you say isn't 'far right', and instead just 'right wing'?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@pianoplayingsteve today, that would be difficult to find, maybe Nicki Haley is farther right than moderate, Nancy Mace more moderate, then the wingnuts, as some call them, like Jordan who may just be way out there like those who voted to not accept the electoral college vote. I could see myself voting for Mace, depending upon who the democrats nominate.
When the other side sees violence as "justified", how can we refuse to even defend ourselves ?

The bottom line is, people only respect non-violence in theory.

When I was a child and my family admired Martin Luther King, Jr. for his restraint in the face of violent attacks, it didn’t escape my notice that the white kids all admired John Wayne, whose characters were always violent.
@bijouxbroussard Sadly, while I loved Ben Kingsley in Gandhi, the movie was too long and he came across more like a human being then a "hero."
@MistyCee Then that would make the movie more accurate. Gandhi was very flawed.
chrisCA · M
I don't think you can have a serious intellectual discussion about politics with anyone who uses the word "libs", or any other silly term.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@MistyCee I am afraid to admit, I have no idea where you went or are going with this. Forget lib v conservative, dem v rep, I don't know of anyone who really condones violence. If one is attacked and defends oneself, ifs that being violent? Some feel it is.
This comment is hidden. Show Comment
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@MistyCee you are still too oblique.
tindrummer · M
Have to discourage anyone from doing things like this but I also get your point - are we too civilized when dealing with the other side?
SW-User
@tindrummer yes, we are too civilized ... and we might as well be preparing, now, while we can, for where this ultimately ends (which is history repeating itself)
windinhishair · 61-69, M
Any human being should condemn violence. However, it is also appropriate that there be different penalties for different situations and forms of violence. For example, the Las Vegas shooter who killed 60 and wounded 500 should be treated differently than someone who threw a can at Ted Cruz. Both are violent. Both are wrong. But they are not the same and do not deserve the same penalty.
Piper · 61-69, F
Yeah, I think "libs" should do that. If "libs" or anyone are going to condemn violence towards political figures they agree with, like or do not despise...then to do otherwise does seem to ring a bit hypocritical.
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
Yes it should be more brought out by Democrats that violence is wrong and the GOP is encouraging, condoning and rewarding it.
I think it's easier to make effective changes by using non-violent and non-abusive forms of activism.

Discuss each issue using proven statistics to show the scale of things and how people are affected in general.
DOn't ignore those who slip through the cracks; they are just as important.
Run trials on new policies and gradually enlarge their scope to test how well they work.
Research how other countries achieve success and copy those models.
Address the subject; never attack on a personal level.
Keep steady with these and the win becomes inevitable: people see the results.
Nobody in a capitalist system represents anyone who isn't strongly pro war and violence.
This comment is hidden. Show Comment
windinhishair · 61-69, M
Condemn the act as you would any act of violence and move on. And do it unconditionally.
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
It shouldn't be one-sided, but yes, Democrats must condemn violence. We know Republicans are advocates of violence against liberals and their families, but no stopping that train.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
Why would they start now?

 
Post Comment