Dear Blueskyking, Gender is an infinite complex spectrum and truth is subjective.

@Gloomy So now social constructs are measurable? I thought the complex social constructs, valid, gave birth to such thoughts... I may be an old hag here, but isn't all life nuanced and not just the ones we give measure upon being nuanced?

@thewindupbirdchronicles
If you read my text again and look at how those two words shape the meaning of my reply you'll see that I don't go against what you wrote.
But there is objective measurable truth in terms of data like how many houses there are in a street or population size, ....

@Gloomy I'll try, we've interacted before, but I don't see it. I'm pretty certain in my time there will never be an objective social truth. It's just the nature of a social species, holding emotion. It's rather gloomy one thinks these things can be ascertained by data alone.

@thewindupbirdchronicles I never mentioned a "social truth" or said that gender is measurable what are you talking about?
Sure social relations are way more complex that any attempt to measure them only brings us closer to something we could consider an accurate depiction of them.

@Gloomy You mentioned truth, implied social I felt .. as it's a social topic.. My thoughts are lousy, but I consider myself effeminate, less than years ago, maybe cause the definitions are changing ... but I wonder why, some question this way, and I'm learning the old adage, be a vagabond and not worry upon such constructs, you get further.