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I’m just gonna say it, man. If you’re a guy who’s sexually attracted to other people with male anatomy, then that’s same-sex attraction. Call it whatever you want, but that’s how I see it. I’m just putting it out there, dude. If you’re into trans women, or that’s what you’re attracted to, then from my perspective, that’s still being attracted to someone who’s biologically male. I keep seeing guys boasting about it online. GAY but they say they are straight. Live your life man, I don’t care but don’t say you be straight.
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DancingStarGoddess · Best Comment
I understand your opinion and feel you're entitled to it. I have a "label" simply because it calls for them in most places but aside from that i don't really believe in them. I think people just like what they like or in some cases, "whom." if the whom happens to have the same plumbing they do, then so be it. I don't need them to define it as any particular thing and if it isn't called that it isn't going to bother me. People just like what and whom they like. But i can see where you're coming from.

I like men, I like women, I like trans persons, i also like intersex persons etc. it has never mattered to me what has been between the person's legs so much as what is between their ears. But i DO understand it being deeply a personal matter of concern for others.

As long as everyone is respectful of the choices of others there is no issue. no one Has to call it anything do they?
Floki · M
@DancingStarGoddess I think we’ve drifted away from what I actually said. My point wasn’t whether people should live how they want or whether anyone’s hurting anybody. Live your life I genuinely don’t care. My point was about the label. If we’re going to use words like straight or gay,they should describe something consistently. Otherwise they stop meaning much. That’s all I was getting at.
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Thanks for BC ^•^

MasterLee · 56-60, M
Floki · M
@MasterLee Exactly… it ain’t rocket science. You notice It’s all analogies, buzzwords and smoke. 😆
Finchy · 41-45, T
If they want to say they’re straight I’m ok with that
Floki · M
@Finchy You’re entitled to your opinion, and I’m entitled to mine. I just don’t think changing the definition of a word because it feels better makes the definition any clearer.
You've reflected on this quite a bit. Are you fluid? Do you know where you fit in?
Floki · M
@Mildud you flirting with me now?
@Floki I wasn't trying to but if that's how you perceive it then what can i do about it?
Floki · M
@Mildud yep. Flirting. Hello there Marie
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Floki · M
@TheHammer You’re still sidestepping it. Three replies in and you still haven’t said where I’m actually wrong.You kicked this off with educate yourself, questioned why I even cared, and now you’re trying to make it about my reaction. That’s a nice way of avoiding the point.
And this whole I usually tell people to piss off” thing, what am I supposed to do with that? Be impressed? It doesn’t make your argument any stronger. It just tells me you think being abrasive somehow gives your opinion more weight.
You came onto my post, started off condescending, and now you’re acting like you’re the reasonable one because I answered you back. If you’ve got an actual argument, make it. If not, stop pretending this was ever about having a discussion.
TheHammer · M
@Floki
It's ok man.
This is not that important.
Sorry my guy
Adroneandastrain · 46-50, M
Self identity can be pretty confusing in these ill defined times. People like Havelock Ellis, and Krafft-Ebbing a long with the more well known Freud got the ball running on such explorations, there's also Michel Foucault's 4 volumes History of Sexuality. Foucault brought forth such folks at the author of Gender Trouble, a trailblazing text for all that Gender theory stuff that is such a part of the LGBTQ literary Canon. Surprisingly I find Carl Trueman the Protestant writer has given these matters a think through in his latest string of books beginning with The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self. Now in this climate we live in anything smelling of dissent will be labelled as hate speech and whatnot, but to think clearly about these things you have to at least take a neutral stance to make any headway in learning about it. Unlike Van Til's use of apologetics which then has to begin from a defined point of view which their opponents won't accept. But that's another matter.
Floki · M
@Adroneandastrain Come on, man. You’re turning a simple point into a philosophy thesis. If that’s your thing, own it. But don’t pretend it takes Freud, Foucault and a bookshelf full of theory to answer what most blokes would answer in about thirty seconds.
Adroneandastrain · 46-50, M
@Floki You're saying i'm pretending, i'm merely saying what I would need to properly contemplate it, they wouldn't give me all I need to know, and I do not believe every word they say. Let's put this to rest, okay? I'm on another portion of the learning journey, there is no future for me in this topic and I truly regret replying to this post in the first place. Peace!!
Floki · M
@Adroneandastrain Fair enough. ordinary people don’t need a shelf full of philosophers to decide what they believe. That’s where we’ll leave it. ☺

 
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