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When you look at me what gender do you see

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basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
Honestly, you should be careful posting this in public though. You're gonna get a lot people either trolling or being dicks thanks to bigotry.
Dressfanatic716 · 26-30, F
I know but when someone calls me beautiful it far outweighs the negative
Dalegend27 · M
@Dressfanatic716: do u think guys calling you a guy is negative?
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
I can understand that. It's just I don't want you to get harassed by people being dicks.
popmol · 22-25, M
he should learn the harsh truth that dressing up doesn't make yo ua woman. and even after a gender resignment surgery you are still a man biologically but then i can also call him a she. but not before that
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
She has a right to her identity because her brain wiring is that of a woman, not a man. Transsexuality is fact, I don't care if it makes some insecure guys confused over their sexuality. Facts don't care. Point is, people are individuals. Point is, maybe people have stopped teaching this, but I was raised that you respect other people. Guess that's the difference of a working class background.
popmol · 22-25, M
@basilfawlty89: i' ve come from a working class back ground that has nothing to do with this. point one: pronouns are not for genders they are for sex. point 2: she is a he, as long as he doesn't do the sexual change he will look like a guy and until he doesn't i'll call him a she.
point 3: yes individuals but today's millennials want to do anything to be special. i'm not saying he has gender disforia. but telling a guy who just dresses up he is a girl i can't do. in a couple of years you can just put guys in girls clothes and let them go in female bathrooms without problems. and i'd rather not have that.

and saying he is a woman for just dressing up is giving a guy thez wrong idea. your putting ideas in his head and only making them strong while they aren't real.
and if he has gender disforia and then he dresses up doesn't make him a woman. nothing will even if he goes trough the surgery he will be a man with fake tits a fake face and if he does his genitals, fake vagina nothing more nothing less. then i'll call him a she because that respect i can give him but just dressing up is not worthy of anyone's respect to call him a woman. if you don't even try to become a woman and just dress up your just like those gay people in gay priode parades who dress up like woman. i'm not saying its bad i'm just saying they are no woman.

so stop putting fake ideas in his head and the ones that already are there don't encourage them
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
I'm not putting fake ideas in her head, she knows her experiences and her feelings in life better than you do. You're not her. The rest of your argument about bathrooms is a slippery slope fallacy. It's the same bullshit that if gays were in the military or in the same toilet with you, they'd rape you. Guess what? My best friend of 20 years is a gay man, I've known many gay people, you know how many times I've been raped by a gay guy? 0.
popmol · 22-25, M
that might be so but feeling as a woman, and its real then he has gender disfornia but just calling him a girl while lots of actual trans people changed their bodies and calling a guy with clothes a woman is just not right. i'm not saying its not normal or it can happen. but just having more hormones isn't and wearing a dress doesn't make you a woman and neither does the opposite for a woman to a man.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
MtF transgenders have female brains, they identify as female. Hence they are transwomen.
popmol · 22-25, M
no no. a transgender is someone who is someone going from 1 gender to the other. not someone feeling like a female is only a transgender when they switch to a woman.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
Again, do you know her life experiences. Are you her? How can you say they just "decided to switch to woman after feeling"? You don't know. This may shock you but other people know themselves better than you know them.
popmol · 22-25, M
well i don' think this helps. a trans is when you change your self trough a sex change until then you are a guy thinking he is a woman and wearing a dress.

all i'm saying is that if a person like him would enter a woman's bathroom without even trying i'll try kill him.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@popmol: Wow, so you'll resort to violence and murder against the group of people most prone to violent attacks and some of the highest murdered people. Aren't you a good person?
popmol · 22-25, M
@basilfawlty89: i never said i'm a good person but i won't attack them if they do a sex change but just feeling like a girl isn't good enough. and then going in a bathroom specially for woman where they ge t their privacy i'll kill anyone who goes in their who isn't a woman
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
And who made you the arbiter of justice? You're literally advocating for hurting innocent people based on a prejudice you have. Do you think gay men will rape guys too? Do you think all black people steal too? You see, this is why we fight back. Shit like this.
popmol · 22-25, M
@basilfawlty89: no but gay guys are still guys and they cannot go to a womans bathroom and they won't. my problem is when a person goes to a place where they are not supposed to belong because the 0.001 % of the world population might be like him but if i let them enter anyone can. and i want to secure the future for my sister my mother and my future children.

a womans bathroom is 1 of the only places where she can have privacy and someone like him going in there is a problem.
i never did this for justice i'm saying is these people should only go in when they have the surgery before that they are guys in a dress and shoudn't go in.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
All I'm saying is you're assuming that people who are prehormone trans are rapists and that men are all liable to rape. That's not only transphobic, but misandrist of you.

You do know women can rape women too right?
popmol · 22-25, M
haha i'm just taking precaution. i don't trust any of these people. and transphobic really? i'm a person with 2 trans in my family have a trans friend and my dentist is a trans but they did sex change so they are woman and 1 is a man but they changed their looks and not just put on a dress and try to think they are a woman. so i don't have a problem with these people.
i'm a misandrist? no what i like to believe is the seven deadly sins maybe something from a religion but we all have bad sides and giving people a way to do something bad is not ok for me so even if they let people like him in a female toilet i'll personally get them out.

and did i say they can't? of course they can, but i was talking in his case.
i'll do the same for every woman saying she is a man without trying to be one to go in a male bathroom.

there are excuses like if a man goes to the female bathroom because the mens is full or they are broken and the same goes for the woamn but those are some examples when they can. but when theres nothing wrong and there is enough space then he can't go in the female bathroom.

and if you want to protect these people thats fine because you will never convince me and i will never convince you so if i pull them out of the toilet and start punching then in the face you can stop me is that alright?