Can your sexuality change over time?

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

@VladG94 Not really sure what the point of you spamming this meme is.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow "From science", explain the science behind this "imaginary baseline" not existing.

@Therealsteve Dude, you just need to take high school science to know there is no such thing as normal. The further you take it the more that becomes apparent.

There is a reason why conservatives have to dig up high school science books from 1950 to find a version of reality that fits their feelings.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I'd be interested to hear your take on what we know "from science".

I am doing a degree in applied health sciences, a degree level diploma in education, and I develop and deliver health education curriculum for medical institutions. I'm trained to gauge and influence the public perception of health data.

Enlighten me, I'm really interested in what you know "from science" and what this "imaginary baseline" is. Go ahead.

@Therealsteve Anyone who has studied human biology since the 1970s knows there is not even a fixed binary for biological sex.

@Therealsteve And it speaks volumes that you started with an appeal to authority fallacy.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Explain the model of the plurality of human sexuality, our understanding of which emerged in the 1970s, as you understand it.

@Therealsteve I don't waste my time with people arguing in bad faith and starting off with logical fallacies. Sorry.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I tend to do that with people who go straight into an appeal to authority with ""the science" says this", which you immediately did.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow "Bad faith". You immediately went in with the appeal to authority that you now claim I'm doing, with your claim of ""the science" says this". Sorry, but if someone is going to claim an authoritative understanding in an area I teach in, I will ask for that authority to be backed up.

If you think me asking you, in your own words, what the "imaginary baseline" is, and what you learned "from science", is "bad faith", then I don't know how anyone is meant to discuss anything with you. "Asking me what I mean using my exact words is bad faith"...

Let's make it even easier for you. Let's pretend I'm not an expert. Simply explain to me, as a lay person, what this "imaginary baseline" is, and how "what we learn more and more from 'science'" backs up your idea of this "imaginary baseline". I'm all ears.

@Therealsteve The only appeal to authority fallacy here is your implication from start that you are right based solely on your claimed credentials, not based on anything factual or evidence based.

A method of study ie the scientific method is not an authority so you don't even seem to understand that it doesn't make sense in your claim of a logical fallacy.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Let's make it even easier for you. Let's pretend I'm not an expert. Simply explain to me, as a lay person, what this "imaginary baseline" is, and how "what we learn more and more from 'science'" backs up your idea of this "imaginary baseline". I'm all ears.

@Therealsteve The only appeal to authority fallacy here is your position that "I am right because of my claimed credentials" not based on facts or evidence.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Again, let's make it even easier for you. Let's pretend I'm not an expert. Simply explain to me, as a lay person, what this "imaginary baseline" is, and how "what we learn more and more from 'science'" backs up your idea of this "imaginary baseline". I'm all ears.

@Therealsteve And you double down on the logical fallacy by asserting you are right simply because you declared yourself an expert.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Again, let's pretend I'm not an expert so you can stop dodging a simple question with that excuse.

Simply explain to me, as a lay person, what this "imaginary baseline" is, and how "what we learn more and more from 'science'" backs up your idea of this "imaginary baseline". I'm all ears.

@Therealsteve I am not playing your childish games.

And you are misrepresenting my argument too. I clearly stated the entire reason why this is absurd is because no such baseline exists.

But you are more interested in lording claimed expertise over people than a real discussion.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow It seems you'd rather be focused on who I am so you can attack a strawman of a logical fallacy, rather than present an argument of which you don't have.

I know what you said, and you reiterated it, hence I asked and have now asked again, using your words, what this "baseline" is and, to use your words what you are "learning more and more from science"?. Go ahead.

Asking what you mean in your own words, using your words, is not a fallacy. So, please do tell me what you mean in your words. I don't wish to play games, I'd like to know your thoughts, hence I've asked for your thoughts quoting the exact words you used, that's how discussion works. A "fallacy" would be not asking you what you think and ascribing what I think you mean based upon a predetermined external axiom. I want to know your thoughts. Go ahead.

@Therealsteve No I am calling you out on your behavior. And now you are throwing around random logical fallacies that don't apply for what? To look impressive to a less educated audience here? Your behavior here is entirely performative.


Again you are deliberately misrepresenting my position. My position is there is no fixed baseline for human sexuality. And various studies and research backs this up.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2023.2289517#abstract

Part of the problem with older research is it expected everyone fit into 3 neat boxes "straight, gay, or bisexual". Categories that themselves don't really predate 1920s Europe. Also for the longest time very little research was done outside western cisgender Caucasian people. There was for example zero accounting for societies that have completely different concepts of sexual identity like the idea of two spirited people from First Nations culture.

The more studies evolved out of white American and European suburbs the more complicated the results have gotten.





I never said that was a fallacy. Implying you are right because you claim to have a degree absolutely is a fallacy.