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Amway & World Wide Dream Builders, what have you heard?

I've been offered a position amongst their ranks, referred to them by a friend whom I trust. And even though it looks like a scam or pyramid scheme, he swears up and down they're not. It does sound good, its not a get rich quick scheme as they say, they say it does require hard work and dedication and can take years to achieve anything. For the most part the fellowship pays for itself except the initial costs to get started however there are things that worry me. They say they're in the business of helping people right? But yet they dont seem all that forthcoming to my situation, to help get me started that is. Maybe its too early, maybe I'm asking too much? I don't know. From what I've been told it is very doable albeit difficult and requiring dedication, but it does feel like they're pushing a bit too hard to get the ball rolling.

One of their favorite lines they like to sell you goes something like this: "I'm not here to convince you, if you have to be convinced you're probably not a good fit. I'm here to introduce to you a better way to make money."

I find that contradictory. Based on how their system works, they need as many people as they can get. The more people you have in what they call your "downline" the more money you make. When they make sales, recruit more people and accrue point values from Amway they make money which in turn makes you money. I feel like there is at least a little convincing involved. For example, convincing someone as skeptical as me that this is a legit, sure fire way of making money. Convince me this isn't a scam or pyramid scheme like everyone says it is. Convince me that this company is all about family and helping people as they claim to be. I asked questions like this to my sponsor or my upline. He seemed almost insulted. Said he wasn't willing to answer any more questions until later on, I guess until I was a part of the organization.

Needless to say, red flags popping up like daisies. I still remain skeptical and I'm going to keep my distance as far as I can for as long as I can until my questions start getting answered and they start showing their true selves. Because if this is truly legit, if it is truly everything they say it is, it's an opportunity I can't miss. But I am not so foolish as to drink the koolaid and immerse myself. I'll keep a healthy curiosity for now and study them.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Scam.

If its so great why do they have to "recruit" people? If it is truly the money making venture they say it is, why the hard sell? Why the bad reputation?

Do your research. Think long and hard before you commit to something like this.

Red flags abound, take heed or be prepared to suffer the consequences.

How's your eBay reselling going?
JestAJester · 31-35, M
@SumKindaMunster yah i told the guy off tonight. Went back and forth on what i wanted to do but after reading story after story, it only confirmed my suspicions.

On the other note, not well. Dont really have much time and i dont have a clue how ebayers are finding inventory at low costs
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@JestAJester Fantastic, so glad.

I had some personal experiences with this myself when I was younger and like you was both startled and annoyed that someone who I considered a "friend" would try to rope me into this.

My wife and I have had some success in "reselling" on eBay...I can tell you how we find our stuff...

First, I work in IT Support and have access to a regular supply of "old" tech being tossed or given away. I am permitted to take it, and will grab things that I know will sell.

Here's what I find sells consistently:

Old cell phones. If it is a recent model Apple or Samsung phone, works, and is "clean" as in, it can be activated, it sells. Every time. I only had a iPhone 3 and the original Samsung Note that did not sell.

Bluetooth adapters and controllers. I had tons of old bluetooth controllers and adapters.

Old hard drives. I wipe them and test them, and am very surprised that they sell. But they do. It is a bargain to buy a good used one as opposed to buying new.

Laptop power supplies.

My wife has her own way in that she goes out to yard sales, thrift shops, antique stores and finds bargains that she can sell on eBay.

She has a good eye for finding something cheap that goes for way more on eBay once you clean it, stage it, and sell it.

Her stuff is lower margin, but it consistently sells and it adds up over time.

We have a TON of stuff on our store. Just very random things. But people will buy stuff that you never thought would sell.

Like a lot of things, I would say its a numbers game...as in the more you post, the more you sell.
Max41 · 26-30, M
In Amway ?
JestAJester · 31-35, M
@Max41 Well in WWG and using Amway products
Disgustedman · 61-69, M
Scamway is still operating? Damn, that's one heck of a cockroach company.

Run away!!! They make more off selling you books and tapes and conferences......
JestAJester · 31-35, M
@Disgustedman yah thats what i read. Found a lot of posts saying similar things. I got away before i gave them any money

 
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