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I have the solution to lower the frequency of mass shootings

I have presented this tactic before a long time ago. It wasn't received well at all.
But I was reading a debate on the subject a minute ago and I keep seeing the same tired arguments.
More gun control. Stricter background checks. Lower ammo capacity. Ban the evil Ar-15 weapon of war.
None of which help.
They banned all that stuff and way more for a 10 year period back in the '90's. It was intended to be an active investigation in the reality of it's possible effectiveness.
The results were that there was no significant improvement in shootings. That would include mass shootings that have been on a steady rise since 1966.
What I am proposing with this post is an alternative to the worn out ban, ban ,ban, stricter requirements... more detailed background checks etc... etc.. etc ....

So if you are interested in exploring the actual reason behind the ever rising mass shootings and the actual only effective way that I can see that there is any chance at slowing them down guaranteed, read on.
If you just want to try to discredit my information and continue to push the age old ban, ban, ban, restrict, restrict, restrict, .... You are welcome as well. :-)

There is a saying in Japan that most people are grasping the wrong end of the stick way too tight.
Gun control is a perfect example of that.
I think the biggest punch in the face as far as mass shootings go was Columbine. They have been an issue since 1966 and on a steady rise.
Columbine was particularity sad because it was kids that got shot. Before that it was people going postal ... which actually really started as a post office phenomenon. Then other people started shooting up there places of employment as a last act of disgruntled employees. I remember this even tho when it started to take off I was pretty young. I think like maybe 8 or 10. Crazy stuff.

So most of these mass shootings are done with the ever popular AR-15.
It is actually the most popular gun on the market.
But I just read that most gun murders are actually committed with a pistol.
But the weapon of choice for a mass shootings or school shooting is the AR.
Funny thing about that. The Ruger Ranch Rifle is pretty much the same thing but doesn't look nearly as cool. Does the same thing the same way. All the same attachments. Nobody trying to ban them too.
So the Ar is being demonized simply because it looks way cooler and nut jobs think it's deadlier than the Ruger that is actually about 1/3 the price of the AR. This will all be relevant in a second.

So something that is happening on both sides, the shooter and the people that want the AR banned is perception. The shooter thinks because the AR looks like the M-16 that it must be able to kill more people easier than say the Ruger Ranch Rifle which is almost the same thing with the same attachments but doesn't look like an M-16. It literally doesn't shoot any faster or more accurate.
What I am trying to show with this is that the AR doesn't give any radical advantage in a mass shooting.
Actually most of the mass shootings are what is considered to be close quarters shooting. The Ar is a rifle and intended to be shooting people 400 yards away. Not 50 ft.

If mass shooters were to actually choose the correct weapon, it would be a semi auto 12 gauge shotgun. You don't need to aim. Just get close. Multiple targets with a single shot. Tons of penetrating power. Don't need a huge drum of ammo because you can reload right off your ammo vest as you shoot. Quickly and easily.
It is horribly destructive up to 50 yards +. You can shoot through solid wood doors effortlessly or even a desk or a car door. The AR, or even a pistol, has to be pointed directly at the intended target and must be held pretty steady in order to be able to hit your man sized target with the tiny round. Every wiggle at the gun, which happens every time you pull the trigger and only magnifies more the faster you try to pull the trigger, cause the accuracy to diminish exponentially with the further the distance away magnifying it even more.
No this isn't a mass shooter tutorial. It's a lesson in in accurate perception. If you hang in there I have a bad ass punch line to all this.
The second choice for shootings is a pistol.
Actually, it is way more adapt for postal style shooting except that it doesn't have a stock to steady the weapon with making it even less accurate than the rifle because it really wiggles when you pull the trigger and same as the rifle it only magnifies the faster you try to shoot it.

The 50 and 100 round drum magazines are a particularly special point that I like to address.
Most people think that the only thing one of them is good for is being able to shoot more people faster. It would appear initially to greatly increase the shooters ability to kill way more people faster because he doesn't have to stop to reload as often. Sounds logical.
But what really happens is that the drum adds considerable weight to the weapon. As well as bulk. I couldn't find the specs on it but just pick up a 20 round box of 5.56 ammo and feel how heavy it is. Then start multiplying. I am only guessing but I would bet a snickers bar that it would have to add at least 40 extra pounds to the gun. That makes maneuvering the weapon substantially more awkward. Think about it. The shooter tries to move the weapon from left to right quickly but when he tries to stop to draw a bead on his target the gun is going to still be in motion. Not like with a regular 20 round mag that that makes the gun weigh about 10 lbs it now weighs about four of five times that.
In reality. If you are ever in a mass shooting situation on the target end .... pray that the shooter also thought this would make his job that much easier.

So with that bit of information about the right tool for the right job I hope you can see the flaw in the ban the Ar and huge drum magazines. They are being used under misperceptions that they increase your effectiveness when in fact they are a huge detriment to the shooters actual goal. So I hope you can see that the only reason the AR and huge drum mags are being used isn't actually because they are extra deadly. It's just a weapon at this point. Nothing special.

So now comes that part that gets people the most worked up for some reason. The actual reason that mass shootings are getting more popular.
We live in an undeniable copy cat culture. If you have any doubts of this or the extent of how much it effects our lives, check out TicToc for about 15 minutes.
You will easily be able to see a minimum of 75 individuals doing the exact same thing.
One thing is the young teen girls wearing no bra and a tiny T-shirt kind of dancing to most likely the same song as hundreds of other girls and I kid you not they are even doing the same damn moves. No originality.
Another thing that runs rampant is people lip sinking a recording of a comedian telling a joke. They all use the same audio clip but for some reason they think that when they do it, it is some how funnier than the other eighty thousand people that did it. I am not joking and am barley exaggerating.
To me it was baffling at first. But as I looked into it more I found out this has been an issue long before TicTok.
Back in the 60's and 70's or maybe even earlier it was unheard of for a news station to report on celebrity suicide. They would report the death but would withhold the fact that it was self inflicted. They did this because the news that it was suicide caused huge numbers of people to also kill them selves as well.
Ok. Now I bet you just rolled your eyes at that fantastically wild statement. But all you have to do is look up copy cat suicides. or copy cat culture. They call it suicide clusters. There are way to many hits on this topic for my liking. Ok and I guess it's not huge but it is prominent.
So if people copy cat suicide what do you think they do with a mass shooting? Or worse yet. A mass shooting in a school full of innocent children. The more Michel Moore's who make feature length big screen movies about the topic the more it just causes it to happen. The bigger deal the media makes about it and mass cries and demands that are made to do something about the evil Ar-15 and the millions of outraged kids they bus to Washington D.C to demand the president to make it harder to get a gun and get rid of those heavy ass 100 round drums and all the old tired same ole attempts to make it stop are actually the reason it continues to grow in popularity.
I personally think that when a school shooting happens, or actually anything like that, it should never be aired outside of the area that is directly effected by it. I mean what is that information doing for me 1200 miles away from where it happened? It's not like they are giving me information that I can use to keep it from happening in my home town. Hell. That's the best way to make sure that it happens in my home town.

Well that was long.
I hope this helps some people realize that banning guns and magazines and making life miserable for a whole lot of people that will never break the law with their evil AR-15 with a 40 lbs magazine hanging under it isn't the answer.

Bonus paragraph.
There is no way to un-invent the gun. It is here to stay and we need to find proper ways to deal with gun violence and the illegal use of them.
I am a machinist and metal fabricator by trade. I have all the knowledge and abilities it takes to build my own fire arms as well as ammunition. For the most part, it doesn't take high speed digital controlled zero tolerance machines and computer cad with a draftsman with a college degree or years of study to be able to build a reliable semi or full auto firearm. You should see the tolerance on a basic Chinese SKS assault rifle or Russian Ak-47. The most expensive tool you would have to get is a welder.
I'm just one of thousands and thousands of people who can do the same thing. All the materials can be purchased at the hardware store.
What I am referring to is a reliable functioning weapon similar to something you could by from the store. But it doesn't have to be like that. There are some types of guns that only have a few basic parts and the only tool you would use is a drill. Think they call them boom sticks. Two pieces of water pipe. A threaded pipe cap. A nail and a shotgun shell.
Then there is also a makeshift rifle that I saw constructed from the same kind of stuff, in the military issued improvised weapons handbook that every solder gets issued to them when they join the military. So that would would be millions of other sources of homemade firearms.

Ok I guess I will stop now.
Tune in later this week for my 2 hour long power point presentation on the simplified synthesis of nitro powder from household chemicals for your own high powered home made ammunition. :-)
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Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
Gun regulation in this country is not allowed.

I suggest broadcasting photos of people blown apart by these military grade weapons. They're not suitable for hunting because they literally blow the animals into pieces.

Photos of a shot up school complete with gore and parts of children MAY result in SOME regulation.
@Crazywaterspring Everyone wont watch it. And, Execution or life in prison for murders has never been a deterrent.
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@Crazywaterspring The AR does not blow game apart. They afflict the game the same as any rifle of it's caliber.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Crazywaterspring No offense. But I get the feeling you either didn't read the post or I am missing your angle.
The topic was regulating guns wasn't what will fix the mass shooting issue.
Also I have a large section where I explain that the type of weapon used in most mass shootings is actually counterproductive to the shooters goal in a big kind of way and the reason is just this same type of misconception of the chosen weapon.
Also, the Ar-15 is the same caliber as many other hunting rifles and has no magic qualities that makes it any more deadly. The fire rate and bullet velocity as well as impact are all the same as many popular big game rifles.
The only thing that make uninformed people think that it is any more deadly is the simply because it looks like the M-16.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@specman I had to read his comment several times and I even had to scroll up to see if I was even on the right post. LOL
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@Crazywaterspring grenades?
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@MasterLee We could reinvent the game corn hole if we had grenades.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@Dainbramadge he said blowing game apart. Ar15 or any jacketed ammo is pretty precise. Unless it is hydroshock or collapsible.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@MasterLee Oh. I missed that part. My bad.
I was going to address that statement and got over run and never got back to it.
Oh well.
Reminds me of the group of guys holding a target that had been shot with a shotgun and they were saying it was an AR round that did it. LOL
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@Dainbramadge typical liberal statements. They regurgitate what someone told them and never bothered to check reality.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@MasterLee I know right. Actually a group of those exact typs was my motivation to make this post.
There was an earlier post about gun control and they were insulting the commenters and I decided I felt froggy and wanted some of that love too. well after my third paragraph of my first comment I happen to see that was from two years ago. LOL
So I moved it all here.
I am a little disappointed i didn't receive a bigger lynch mob.
I stopped doing the politics and climate arguments a while ago but like I say I felt a little froggy. LOL
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Crazywaterspring I know this was a little while ago but showing photos like that to upset people doesn't work because the way human psychology works is that you can desensitize from violence if you see things enough times so showing photos may upset people at first but then we'd just get used to it as a coping self defense mechanism.