You forget to factor in one thing, shooters do not care, most buy illegally, or steal them, circumnavigating background checks, and ignore these signs as well, knowing they'll get zero resistance.
You and the other antigunners don't think, do you. https://www.americanrifleman.org/Armed-Citizen
@bookerdana Right. But it was also to protect from all threats foreign and domestic, and our well armed milita gets there stuff from that government. LOL
The only problem with your idea is that everyone or almost everyone has a smartphone now and access to social media. If the News services stopped reporting mass shootings, we'd be getting a lot more opinion based news from those sources without the filter of a for profit based news service. Not that the MSM are always honestly reporting the news but there is at least some semblance of integrity there guaranteed simply by the number of news agencies reporting from the scene.
@Dainbramadge Not quite true, there are many sources for this but here is one below, a "mass shooting" is considered to be one where at least 3-4 people were killed, depending on who is doing the recording. Not that they didn't happen before the 1960's but certainly not at the rate we have now.
@spjennifer Right. I think the site I got that thing about '66 from may have been using a different criteria too. You know that is an awfully low number in my books to be called a mass shooting. Hell the mob shoots more people in one sitting than that. LOL I would think that 10 people should be the lowest number to be considered mass shooting.
@Dainbramadge I don't think I'd want to quantify the numbers as anything, even one is too many for me. I don't think that for example, when a teenager kills his entire family should be considered a "mass shooting" though, it's usually more of a murder or murder/suicide. I would consider any event where several people are shot in a public place, even if not all die, to be a mass shooting event and leave it at that.
I suggest broadcasting photos of people blown apart by these military grade weapons. They're not suitable for hunting because they literally blow the animals into pieces.
Photos of a shot up school complete with gore and parts of children MAY result in SOME regulation.
@MasterLee I know right. Actually a group of those exact typs was my motivation to make this post. There was an earlier post about gun control and they were insulting the commenters and I decided I felt froggy and wanted some of that love too. well after my third paragraph of my first comment I happen to see that was from two years ago. LOL So I moved it all here. I am a little disappointed i didn't receive a bigger lynch mob. I stopped doing the politics and climate arguments a while ago but like I say I felt a little froggy. LOL
@Crazywaterspring I know this was a little while ago but showing photos like that to upset people doesn't work because the way human psychology works is that you can desensitize from violence if you see things enough times so showing photos may upset people at first but then we'd just get used to it as a coping self defense mechanism.
@specman Thank you so much for that. When I attempt to project my thoughts here, I tend to put my focus more so on delivering the big picture rather than a million details and statistics and what have you. There are a few people who will read this that will demand links and sources when in fact this is essentially a compilation of paraphrased topics mashed together to create a sharable manifestation that hopefully initiates a level of critical thinking from a different perspective other than what we seem to be stuck with at the moment. Thank you again. :-)
The kids who shoots classmates are rebelling against their parents and or society. To make it to the newspaper is the motivator.
The shooting itself is just like anyone who shoots with a gun for the first time , they don't realize what they have done until the shots are fired and blood is dripping from the bodies. It becomes a trauma once they realize the consequences of their fantasy /revenge plot.
Sometimes these kids are worshipping serial killers or former masshooters too much, only too hype it up further. They live up to their big idols by pulling that trigger. They finally feel they have a purpose.
In some cases it's a psychotic state they're in so they have rearranged the entire reality to what their fantasy is. And project it to real life.
I think this can be prevented through many instances.
1. Gun control (For example the law to keep all licensed weapons in a safe with a key or a code)
2. Silent mass shooting news
3. Better system for kids in unsafe homes /kids in need of mental help.
@Queendragonfly Yes you have made a good point that I really did try to weave into my post but I don't think I am a good enough writer to accurately implement what I needed to. This, even tho it comes off as the one and only absolute single thing that needs to change in order to stop the phenomenon completely, is really only a prominent aspect to it that seems to be completely over looked. Yes there are still facets that would need to be implemented and explored to fully and properly address the problem in a proactive way in order to make a significant change. That is one of the things that makes me hopelessly addicted to writing stuff like this here. A limitless source of ideas and perceptions to be able to mass spitball any number of ideas. I mean, if it weren't for SW my idea would be posed to my echo chamber circle of friends who think exactly like I do and go no further than it launch. But with SW I am allotted access to people like you and others who have actually advance the idea into a more rounded construction. Like my own person million person think tank. :-) Thank you for this.
Have you checked the price of a Mini-14 lately? They retail between $800- $1400 depending on the options you want.
But I think a big deterrent would be to stop publishing and broadcasting the gunman's name. That's what most of them want anyway is to be famous because they will never be anything in their pathetic little lives.
@goodlil666 Holy hell man. I thought the Ar's were over priced. My brother was a prison guard and they used the mini on the walls.
But you know you bring a crazy valid point to the table about the making a name for themselves. Look at the dude, Hinkley I think, that shot John Lennon. Wanted to become famous for Jody fosters attention. But in reality. What purpose does it serve to tell the world about the incident at all?
@Dainbramadge I can see your point since the fame is really what most of them want. But the public will never go for that. But not publishing the shooter I think would cut way down on the random shootings. Maybe not as much when it's grudge or vengeance motivated.
@goodlil666 Oh sure. There are all kinds of motivations for people to shoot the place up. But I was just addressing specifically the school type mass shootings and it;s relationship to the media. My answer to quiling the other types of shoot ups is eve less popular than my keep quit one. LOL Give everybody a gun and then the gun is no longer the most powerful tool on the street. God made man. Smith and Wesson made them all equal. LOL
@softspokenman Right. I don't pretend that my idea is the cure all for all violent crime or for that matter anything more than a direction to explore rather than rehashing the same methods that yield little no no results. You know if we were to reduce violent crime down to it's most absolute basic properties and be able to assign a root cause to it, we would probably simply just have to start revoking parent cards and teacher cards and start sending our children off to military school till they are of consenting age. LOL
@Bumbles Well. I'm not really sure. See it used to be common practice to not do the suicide stories and everyone just all complied. No one told them they had to do it. I don't believe they had a meeting to discuss it or anything either. All I do know is it was common practice acknowledged that everyone abided by for the greater good. I don't know when they decided they wouldn't be doing it anymore but the stats would probably reflect it. The copy cat culture thing is a very real phenomenon. I mean you want to know how prevalent it is just search the phrase and look at all the responses to it. I gotta tell you it creeped me out when I saw all the information available on it.
@Bumbles Well the more I explore the topic with you great people who have chose to participate it is looking like it is too late for my idea to work. The cat is already out of the bag and I don't see any way to put it back. So where I am at now with the topic of making mass shooting at school less of a thing is we have to put armed guards in all the schools. Lot's of them. That too is a horribly unpopular thing but what else can we do that will guarantee that a sicko with any type of weapon is made to not be allow to kill my kids at school. I am still working out options about this with my friend in PM. He is dead set against armed security in the school. Just as a lot of people. But sooner or later we have to stop wishing for an answer and just do what we all know will work. Thank you for your contribution. :-)
I agree with you about not making mass shootings and suicide a form of entertainment. They do it to sell newspapers and for t.v. ratings both of which are going out of style anyways.
@Lostpoet Oh yeah brother. In the media industry they had to, at some point, decide that their ratings were more important than not triggering the copy cats and sense freedom of the press is protected and the act of stifling the suicide or now the mass shooter info was strictly an honor bound duty, it was also unenforceable. No honor among those who exploit the the worst of man for ratings.
People (males?) who commit mass murders usually plan them and they don't use a single shot muzzle loader. Eliminate guns they will use something else, Ted Kaczynski, the 'Unabomber' is one example but I haven't seen many of those either. I haven't seen other incidents in large numbers like Hinkley. People who murder others have mental problems "The Criminal Mind."
@softspokenman This reminds me of an article posted in playboy magazine in the late 80's on the topic of gun control. The writer started out with the simple fact that if someone wants to kill another person and the gun was never invented they will use the ever so popular claw hammer or a simple brick. Thank you for this. :-)
@Patriot96 I was using Ted as an example for another topic not to long ago. Ted used a tool that many public figures and influencers have exploited for centuries both for good and evil. He used his charisma. His wicked charm and unassuming demeanor. I kid you not, when I meet people any more and have an instant attraction to them I put up my guard and start looking for signs that I am being charmed by a possible next Ted Bundy.
@MistyCee Pretty much sums it up. I mean really what purpose does it serve to tell the world about a shooting in a small Kentucky town? I mean what are the chances that somehow, 1200 miles north, I may have know someone involved and be effected by it? Actually if I had any connections to the event I am sure someone would call and tell me.
Too late to ban the damn things we have more weapons here and more mass shootings than the next ten countries..its scary......You also can't ban legitimate news stories.......I have no idea how to recapture mental health.......I blame everything on social media and video games!!!! (J/K on the last item)
Welcome back,buddy...you do awright with the trusty flame thrower!📣🔥
@bookerdana On a chart I found about the topic graphed from '66 to I think '22 Around the late seventies the chart started to sharply increase in frequencies.
@Dainbramadge Not surprising ,really,everbody knows theres something thats gone very wrong in our country,they just don't agree on whats caused it ,or what to do about it..."Where there is no Wisdom,the people perish"
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP The US is what is considered to be a gun culture and always has has been. We built this country mainly using guns. Other countries were already established, for the most part were already completely civilized buy the time the gun became available mainstream. So it was easy to just say you don't have a need for a gun in the city and there are no wild areas where you either defend yourself with the gun or you perish. See. It was crazy wild everywhere here when we moved in. We had mean ass Indians that wanted to kill us all the time and the only thing that kept that from happening was the gun. Wild animals were a constant threat and we could only keep them from eating us with the gun. We had to hunt every meal with the gun. Anyway. This gradually was tamed and the absolute need for a gun ever so slowly became a less important. So it is actually kind of like a frog in a frying pan. If you slowly turn up the heat the frog won't realize that it's getting hotter to the point that he will cook before he moves. We never had an occasion to mark a specific time that we could all say... ok ... guess we don't need guns to survive any more. We can live with out them. So instead we just kept continuing to incorporating the possession of guns as the norm. I hope that makes a little sense at least.
@Dainbramadge It makes perfect sense: American gun culture, American individualism.... so it's not a matter of necessity, it's just that gun ownership just has far too much momentum to be stopped any time soon
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP Well jeesh. If you put it that way it sounds like we are just spoiled brats that don't want anyone to tell us what to do. But seriously there is a bit more to it than that but for the most part you are spot on. I mean we still use them for self defense. The criminals use firearms it is only fair that we have the same advantage that they have. But my post covers a lot more than just the gun. There are other factors involved that are actually the bigger problem with mass shootings than the gun.
@MasterLee Very concisely put. LOL. But i am finding out that my plan has it's limits and the fringe of implementing or even attempting to implement anything I wrote could have possible catastrophic reaction. LOL It has been presented that, at this point in the media game, that if the news services attempted to start the omission of mass violence or suicides again like it used to there is a strong possibility that it would create an even more vile and destructive force. Instead of the conventional media covering it the blood thirsty sensationalism addicts would flood the internet in droves to provide that information in an even larger scale than now and completely unregulated. Kind of funny. Create something with nothing but the best of intentions and inadvertently cause the end of days. LOL
