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Canada introduces bill to freeze sales and imports of handguns

[b][c=BF0080]Chapeau, Premier Ministre Trudeau![/c][/b]

The Canadian government introduced a new bill today that proposes stricter laws controlling handguns just days after more than a dozen students and a teacher were gunned down in a Texas elementary school.

The proposed legislation would immediately stop the sale, transfer, and import of handguns across the country. It stops short of an outright ban on handguns but would reduce the number of them in legal circulation.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called the bill a “national freeze” on handgun ownership during a news conference in Ottawa just after 5 pm local time.

“Other than using firearms for sport shooting and hunting, there is no reason anyone in Canada should need guns in their everyday lives,” Trudeau said. “Canadians are united in wanting to do more to keep communities safe and prevent suicides and gender-based violence.”

“[b]This is about freedom. People should be free to go to school, the supermarket, their place of worship without fear,[/b]” Trudeau continued. “[b]Gun violence is a complex problem, but at the end of the day, the math is quite simple: [c=BF0080]the fewer guns in communities, the safer everyone will be[/c].[/b]”

Present at the announcement were survivors of several Canadian mass shootings, including Ecole Polytechnique, the Quebec Mosque shooting, the Danforth shooting, and the Portapique rampage.

Public Safety Minister Marco Mendocino called the bill the most significant action on gun violence in a generation.

The bill also includes stiffer sentences for illegally owning a gun and gives more resources to law enforcement to intercept smuggled guns. In addition, it prevents people with a prior or current restraining order from getting a firearms licence. Courts could also suspend gun licences for people deemed to pose a danger to themselves or others.

The proposed legislation needs to be approved in a vote in the House of Commons before it becomes law.

(stolen from: https://dailyhive.com/calgary/canada-handgun-freeze-bill)
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Ozuye502 · 36-40, M
You sing his praises not realizing you are surrendering your self to the will of gooberment giving up your gun rights never ends well
room101 · 51-55, M
@Ozuye502 And yet, it has indeed "ended well" in every developed country on the planet.
Ozuye502 · 36-40, M
@room101 😂🤣😂🤣 look at history!
Filled with governments turning on it’s own people after stripping them of the means of defending themselves!
It wasn’t just Hitler who slaughtered those who didn’t agree with him. You can not regulate yourself into safety but you can defend yourself against crazy. Just so happens the best tool to do that is a hand gun!
@Ozuye502 and giving everyone a gun did end well?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@room101 And thing is, most "developed" countries have a developed, educated population. Unlike America, where ignorance is a virtue, obesity a sport, a falling life expectancy in a land of plenty and religion an excuse for anything. (Thats the White folks of course. My apologies to the rest of you good Americans.)😷
Ozuye502 · 36-40, M
@NerdyPotato ranging from 1-3 million defensive uses of a firearm each year is is prefect no but give me the tools to defend myself rather then be a sitting duck for some nut case
room101 · 51-55, M
@Ozuye502 I am indeed looking at history. I am looking at both current and historical facts, not BS jingoism pushed out by gun fetishists.

People living in developed countries around the world are demonstrably safer and more free to go about their daily lives, to vote, to have access to health care, to decide for themselves if they want to be parents, to express their sexuality, to send their kids to school knowing that they will come home alive and well.............than the average American is.

Your gun obsession has done nothing to give you the things that we enjoy as a matter of routine.
room101 · 51-55, M
@Ozuye502 Those so-called "police officers" in Uvalde, Texas had the tools to defend themselves..............and the kids pleading for help.

But, of course, you're Rambo so............🤷‍♂️
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@room101 Wasn't it Donald Trump who said he would have charged into a school active shooter situation and shot him immediately? I guess his bonespurs were playing up.
I have to assume all the Officers there on the day are going to be made to feel the communities attitude for some time now..😷
@Ozuye502 in that case, why aren't you using those guns for what they were meant for in the constitution?

[media=https://youtu.be/1eR0ckpJ3bk]

Don't you think it's about time to stand up to the government?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@NerdyPotato Absolutely love the clip and every word is true. Except I dont see enough Americans looking beyond the next Superbowl..😷
@Ozuye502 [quote]ranging from 1-3 million defensive uses of a firearm each year[/quote]
That's an AMAZING statistic! Maybe a little TOO amazing to be true though. Where did you it??
romell · 51-55, M
@Ozuye502 around the world tons of examples where you don't own millions of AR15 yet people are safe n free
Ozuye502 · 36-40, M
@ElwoodBlues it’s hard to judge low estimates put it at 55-80 thousand but high estimates put it at 1-3 million. Due to media agendas it’s vastly under reported and often a crime adverted by just the threat of there being a firearm not being in the hands of a criminal acts as a deterrent. Study after study shows criminals fear an armed victim more than the legal system or law enforcement. Because justifiable homicide is a thing.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Ozuye502

[quote]You sing his praises not realizing you are surrendering your self to the will of gooberment giving up your gun rights never ends well[/quote]

Owning a gun in Canada isn't a "Right" like it is in the USA, Canada doesn't have a "2nd Amendment" so the Government of Canada is perfectly within its Rights to enact Laws to protect its Citizens and it seems to work as Canada has far less gun violence than we do...
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Ozuye502 You need to look at history yourself. Like read a book and stop getting your info from partisan YouTube sources.

Hitler took guns from Jewish people when the Third Reich was already established. Taking away Jewish guns was a further oppressive step against them. But it made no difference because armed insurrection by a minority people would have been powerless against the Wehrmacht. An army that went on to destroy the combined military forces of Britain and France was never going to be worried about Jewish militias, that didn't yet exist anyway.

Sadly most German people at the time supported the NAZI state against Jews.

Also, comparing NAZI Germany to Trudeau's Canada is such an obviously abysmal analogy anyway. I don't even like Trudeau but the potential for him implementing the final solution is zero. Pffff.
Ozuye502 · 36-40, M
@romell you maybe correct however, most countries that do not have modern sporting rifles (ar15 akm47 acr and about a thousand different examples) do not have the huge mistrust of of their government. When there’s actually case laws on the books clearly stating law enforcement has no constitutional authority or duty to act or protect the common citizen we are left to protect ourselves! Now thanks to the NFA the best tool most commonly available and found in the US is the ArmaLite Rifle model 15. If Waco which the government was responsible for the death of 25 children and Ruby Ridge which the government was responsible for the death of a mother and 3 children was not a wake up call to see that governmental willingness to protect and serve the shit out of the civilian population. Not mention what can happen when government goes Hitler Mao Castro or pick your version of a penile spud. Or some jackass has the desire of a hostile takeover like we are currently seeing in Ukraine. Tell me again why we don’t need tools like the various modern sporting rifles in civilian hands.
Hasn’t the US government spent 60billion in arming civilians in Ukraine?
Ozuye502 · 36-40, M
@Burnley123 you are proving my point of armed civilians are way harder to oppress. Hitler Mao Castro and every dictator knows that if you remove the means to fight back the will will follow.
That "1 to 3 million" figure comes from one small random survey done once. I've posted more details and additional studies elsewhere in this thread so it doesn't get buried.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Ozuye502 Ok, let's assume that Trudeau's Canadian Liberals are Hitler and that your Cosplay Minutemen club could fight a modern high-tech army.

Both these assumptions seem valid to me. I concede the point because you made it so well. 😂
Ozuye502 · 36-40, M
@Burnley123 you assume I will be playing fairly well the Genova convention only applies to standing armies and you assume I will only be using my own equipment….
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Ozuye502 Where the F is Genova?
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Burnley123 In Italy, nothing to do with Geneva or the Geneva Convention, duhrrrr 😖🤪
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@spjennifer Nipola and Malin are two goof cities.
Really · 80-89, M
@NerdyPotato I love that clip too, specially as a lover of harmony (all kinds). But try as I might I'm unable to visualise a way of dismantling partisan party politics from within the system, or even just getting some common-sense people elected, without the backing of corruptible - and corrupting - big money. I think we're screwed.