18 dead in Texas school mass shooting...your thoughts ? 😔 💔

@SW-User there are several directions to go with such an inquiry. One thing, about 50% of the guns used in crimes were stolen. With more total guns than people, perhaps requiring all gun owners to have some way to lock their weapons might be a help!

@SW-User It is estimated that about 50% of the population is nuts, which means that around 165,000,000 need some degree of mental health care. So, if you know any sane people who need a good-paying job you should encourage them to become a specialist in the mental health care field.

@SW-User People who.murder are not mentally illed. They are [b]killers. [/b] I'm sure if someone killed someone close to you the last thing you would think of is that..🤔

@Zonuss with proper therapy, and without access to a weapon, perhaps they would not become killers.

@samueltyler2 False. It is human nature. You are dead wrong..🙂

@Zonuss i hypothesized something, how can that be wrong? It needs to be tested!

@samueltyler2 You will be [b] deeply [/b] disappointed. 🙂

@SW-User No it's the f**king guns. Military- grade, large magazine capacity guns. Ban the guns.

@badminton Hey genius, an AR has never been used by the military. It's no different or more deadly than a revolver.

Learn about what you are blathering

@samueltyler2 I'm not sure what your point is here but it seems you've assumed I'm referring to all gun crime. When I said [i]these events[/i] I was strictly referring to mass shootings, where it appears to be the case that those responsible have legal access to the gun prior to using it to shoot multiple people. This would suggest that the gun is either owned by a family member (e.g parent) and they have direct access to it with permission to handle it, or the individual has bought it themselves.

@Diotrephes Are you saying that 50% of the population is mentally ill or that 50% of the population is liable to embark on a mass shooting? People belonging to the latter category are rare, and you can only categorize someone as "mentally ill" if they have been diagnosed with a mental illness or psychiatric disorder.

One commonality people should consider is that most mass shooters tend to be young males who are either bullied or rejected by their peers. Many of these people have actually sought help from doctors, but instead of being diagnosed with anything or receiving support, they've been prescribed SSRI inhibitors which have been shown to be potentially dangerous and not particularly safe for use on adolescents. There's a definite link between these drugs and mass shootings. However, that's just one aspect to this as I think people in general need to start evaluating how they treat individuals who seemingly have issues or don't fit in. For example, IF this guy was bullied or not included by his peers, why didn't anyone try to address it? And if they did, why did it fail so spectacularly?

@SW-User[b][i] At last there's proof: 44% of Americans are crazy[/i][/b] https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2009/12/at-last-theres-proof-44-of-americans-are-crazy/31576/

https://www.nami.org/mhstats

[b][i]In the United States, almost half of adults (46.4 percent) will experience a mental illness during their lifetime.[/i][/b] https://www.mentalhealthfirstaid.org/2019/02/5-surprising-mental-health-statistics/

@Zonuss Except most of them actually are mentally ill.

@badminton Guns will never be fully banned and what's the point in banning something while still not solving the actual problem?

@SW-User It's not necessary to ban guns because guns use manufactured ammo. Simply stop selling ammo and once it's all used up the guns will be useless except for being used as clubs. Sure, some people might have lots of ammo but that would be the exception and not the rule. Strictly speaking, there's no constitutional right to ammo.

@Diotrephes Source one is in reference to how Americans are perceiving global economics so it is irrelevant and not a qualifier for whether someone is mentally ill or not.

Source two essentially contradicts source three because it outlines a lesser statistic for the number of Americans suffering from mental illness. It states the following: [i]1 in 20 U.S adults experience [b]serious[/b] mental illness per year.[/i] Now, I think we can both agree that mass shooters qualify as having not mild but serious if not severe mental illness. These individuals would be categorized as highly mentally ill, to a degree that they have committed mass murder. Most people, even those diagnosed with a mental illness, do not fit into that category and this means that your "half of Americans are crazy" argument is not valid or applicable to this issue.

@SW-User I believe that by sitting down and talking with these individuals is a start. Number two, we can have strict disciplinary measures that will penalize students who bully or patronize other students at school or near the campus. Number three, we can never excuse bad parenting, or people who don't have time for the own children. Yes, I realize that is a complicated issue, especially in single parent homes. But communication is needed here.

@Diotrephes of course there is genius. An arm is not an arm if it's not in working order (ie loaded)

You infantile suggestion is the epitome of infringement on the right to bear arms

Plus everyone I know makes their own ammo

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@SW-User Evidently you are unaware of all of the things people do that are reported in the news. Those things are done by people who are whacko. Open you eyes and you will see that lots of people you associate with are nuts.

@SW-User Easy availability of guns is the problem. Strict gun control laws are the solution.

@Slade So, everyone you know makes their own casings, manufactures their own gunpowder, and casts their lead bullets? Are you part of a criminal gang?

@badminton People steal guns from cops.

@Diotrephes you'll nevrr know...until it's too late

@Diotrephes Not everything you see or hear in the news is factual lol. It's in the media's interest to make things sound as negative as possible depending on what agenda they're trying to promote.

@badminton You say "easy availability", which implies guns would still be available and thus still accessible to people inclined to use them in this way. I guess you're arguing that it would make it more difficult for them if guns were less available but if someone has reached the point they want to commit mass murder, they'll probably find a way to do it if there's no other intervention.