Insulting humanity

@Richard65 I won't refute this.
It doesn't make the current regime and its supporters innocent. I don't mean to oppose a virtuous camp to a corrupt camp.
I'm growing very weary of the blame-the-West alibi. Every atrocity committed on earth is not the result of one source of evil/ greed only.

@EarthlingWise it doesn't matter one iota if you're tired of the blame-it-on-the-West alibi, it's simply historical fact, not an alibi. To suggest that shows a very limited understanding of history and realpolitik and the domino effect of events through the decades. If you're tired just hearing it, then imagine being the society who actually has to live through it, day by day. Imagine being one of those facing execution. Your impatience with the facts behind that reality speaks volumes about the West's continuing attitude.

@Richard65 What about the other theocracies that kill blasphemers , is the West to blame for those too ?

@RodionRomanovitch what's that got to do with my point about Iran? Pure whataboutism, which is another pitiful excuse people like you use. Try to stick to the subject at hand, if you can or we might as well talk about football or baking cheesecake....

@Richard65 'it's simply historical fact, not an alibi' ...... that's what you said and that's what I'm taking issue with.

No whataboutism here , nor unprovoked personal attacks. Don't presume that you know anything about me.

@RodionRomanovitch the situation in IRAN is subject to historical fact, that's what the subject under discussion concerns, but instead you decided to throw in an irrelevant comment about other theocracies that weren't the subject of discussion. That told me most of what I needed to know about you.

@Richard65 The OP's first response to your little potted history of Iran was ; 'I won't refute this'.

And neither do I. Most people our age are aware of the genesis of modern day Iran. It isn't a secret known only to you.

So the point of the post isn't really Iran but rather theocratic regimes that murder their own citizens who aren't buying their religious bullshit. (The title of the post is 'Insulting Humanity'.)

She continued by saying that she was 'weary of the blame-the-West alibi for every atrocity committed on earth' . Again , this is clearly not Iran specific.

You then went on to attack her , as you did me , for wrongly assuming we were ignorant of history. You tried to rubbish her disdain for the blame the west alibi , the very one you used yourself , while ignoring the wider context. So my original response to you is pertinent.

Once again ; 'What about the other theocracies that kill blasphemers , is the West to blame for those too ?'

@Richard65 what a total crock of Sh'it

@Richard65 This is a problem with the UK and US they cause more grief and more of a mess by interfering in other countries .

@RodionRomanovitch the OP's original post was purely about Iran. That's what the entire focus was on and what the headline was referring to. If it was about theocracies in general, why not make that clear in the original post instead of as a byline in a secondary reply? You're closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. Next time, maybe you could both figure out what you wish to say before posting. Don't blame me for correcting you.

@Rhode57 sure....a nation kills people for expressing an opinion, and it's the fault of someone thousands of miles away who had nothing to do with it....and adamantly fights for individual rights.

@Richard65 The fact remains the same. the fact is this is happening currently and it is revolting to the OP and me too.

So your blame on the WEST is of no bearing on this post.

Also They had a choice on continuing this practice.

@originnone The UK and US have alot to answer for . They have caused so much misery in other countries . For example africa was the bread basket of the world till the world decided political correctness and scoring browny points in elections was more important to them than the success of other countries . They forced black governments on countries that werent ready for them and left africa bankrupt starving and with corrupt govenance . How is that right . They did the same in Iraque and afghanistan . Every where they go they cause more problems . You only have to look at the Taliban that they put in power .

@Rhode57 ...and I'll bet they've done some good things to. The point is, these countries are not to blame for Iran killing citizens for protesting.

@originnone Agreed about Iran but if you ever find anything good that US or UK have done let us know . I think they have done so much bad that any good they may have done wont make up for the bad .

@Rhode57 You're probably not looking at it objectively then. Certainly some bad but some good too....