Calm Down People- Especially Those Who Don’t Live Here

People- today’s Supreme Court ruling does not outlaw abortion. It returns the decision to the States. That’s all. There will be plenty of States where abortion will remain legal and some States have already started the process of expanding them. If you want an abortion and live in a State where they’re not available, travel to a State where it is. If you don’t like your State’s positions/laws on abortion, move to one that you agree with.

In the simplest terms look at marijuana. Some States have completely unregulated recreational use/possession, some have medicinal marijuana use/possession, and some have criminal penalties for use/possession. It’s a State by State decision.

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ChampagneOnIce · 51-55, F

Jesse, I respectfully disagree with you. 26 states are expected to ban abortion, leaving more than 33 million women without access to abortion care. At least 1 in 4 women will have an abortion by the time they're 45, and they choose to have abortions for many reasons, including medically risky pregnancies, unviable pregnancies, rape, incest, etc. Now, many will be forced to forego that choice, which history has shown, will put women’s lives at serious risk.

The end of Roe means the end of a constitutional right that, for nearly half a century, gave people agency over their bodies and reproductive choices. Already, the US has the highest maternal mortality rate of developed nations, and studies have shown that number could increase in the wake of abortion bans.

The end of Roe means the end of legal abortions in over half the states in the country. It doesn’t mean abortions end. It means more women will die because they have to seek other means.

This isn’t about life nor babies. It’s about control and economics. It’s about the will of a minority ruling over what the majority wants. 61% of Americans think abortion should be legal.

I never had to have an abortion, but I sat with friends who did. It was not a decision they made lightly. It was deeply personal and deeply painful, but it was the best decision in their circumstances. It should be between the woman, her partner if she has one, and her doctor. No one should have sovereignty over another’s body.

carpediem · 61-69, M

@ChampagneOnIce Abortion was never a constitutional right. That is essentially what the court’s decision has stipulated. And as such, it’s a state by state issue.

That is the long and short of it. People who claim abortion is now illegal are just not informed and over-reacting.

ChampagneOnIce · 51-55, F

@carpediem The landmark 1973 Roe v Wade case saw the Supreme Court rule by a vote of seven to two that a woman's right to terminate her pregnancy was protected by the US constitution.

The ruling gave American women an absolute right to an abortion in the first three months (trimester) of pregnancy, but allowed for restrictions in the second trimester and for prohibitions in the third.

Abortion is or will become illegal in 26 states because of yesterday’s ruling.

carpediem · 61-69, M

@ChampagneOnIce It was never covered in the constitution. Period. The SCOTUS did exactly what they did back then. They interpreted the constitution and properly made it a state by be state issue.

ChampagneOnIce · 51-55, F

@carpediem Despite Abigail Adams' famous advice to her husband John Adams to “remember the ladies,” he and the rest of the founders left any mention of women out of the founding documents. As a result, the U.S. Constitution does not mention women at all. Times have changed. They also owned slaves.

We all have a fundamental right to privacy and should have to body autonomy.

carpediem · 61-69, M

@ChampagneOnIce true as defined by individual states. It's a states right to define the law as per it's representatives elected by the voters. Pretty simple. Not sure why it's such a difficult concept to understand.

ChampagneOnIce · 51-55, F

@carpediem Slavery was also a state’s rights issue at the time. It’s still wrong.

carpediem · 61-69, M

@ChampagneOnIce What state do you live in?

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@ChampagneOnIce

The end of Roe means the end of a constitutional right

Crap. The so-called right was never constitutional as the court hrld yesterday

ChampagneOnIce · 51-55, F

@SW-User Body autonomy is 100 percent a fundamental human right.

SW-User

@ChampagneOnIce Not inalienable...Where is that in the constitution

ChampagneOnIce · 51-55, F

@SW-User See my reply above. Women aren’t mentioned in the Constitution at all, despite the urging of Abigail Adams. It has been in operation since 1789 and is the world's longest surviving written charter of government. Times have changed over the last 223 years providing for freedom of ALL humans, not just rich, educated, white men. Its first three words – “We The People” – affirm that the government of the United States exists to serve its citizens.

So, yes, body autonomy IS an inalienable right for ALL people, not just white men.

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@ChampagneOnIce groan. What could cement an argument better than another tiresome, irrelevant race card.

ChampagneOnIce · 51-55, F