I don't understand what the Kavanaugh guy did wrong?

The purpose of the God given Second Amendment is stop tyranny. Hence the MAGA mantra "Second Amendment solutions." Could one see the state forcing women to give birth as tyranny? And isn't it up to him to determine that? MAGA world thinks healthcare is tyranny, after all!

Further, aren't militias supposed to walk around baring arms? So, no problem there.

Also, until a shot is fired and enters the human no crime can be committed .

Finally, if the shooter felt threated, then shouldn't the cession of life (need to be careful, here) be celebrated as a just use of the God given Second Amendment?

I'm just asking questions. I could be wrong. I think we need an honest conversation about these issues in good faith.

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BlueVeins · 22-25

Eh, I totally get where you're coming from, but I get the sense that killing a supreme court justice would cause more problems than it would solve. Conservatives and fascists have always been much more capable of extreme violence than any other American political faction. I tend to think that any violence enacted across party lines sets us on a downward slide towards a civil war that they would almost certainly win. Nazis thrive on this narrative that anyone who disagrees with them is a subverter and needs to be eliminated.

Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M

@BlueVeins Don't get me wrong, I'm personally against all violence. I just don't understand given the plain meaning of the Second Amendment what he did wrong.

BlueVeins · 22-25

@Fukfacewillie Well, you're not against all violence, right? Like if the government tries to do hitler things, it's probably good to kill them. As far as what he did wrong goes though, I don't think... it makes sense to have this attitude where whether or not violence is justified is just a matter of personal opinion, you know? I guess it technically is, but we normally expect people to have a very strong, evidence-based justification before they go out and kill people, at least if they're not having to make the decision on-the-fly (i.e. a home invasion). It doesn't really matter what the would-be assassin views as tyranny; what ultimately matters is whether or not killing the guy would save more lives than it would destroy.

Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M

@BlueVeins I agree, but your last sentence keep the door open ajar. What the 6 MAGA justices are unleashing begs questions…

BlueVeins · 22-25

@Fukfacewillie The US is large and populous enough that a civil war could easily cause an amount of violence and bloodshed on par with World War I, with the knock-on effects possibly even rivalling World War II elsewhere. And that's even assuming that nobody ends up launching a nuke, which is no guarantee. All that, and even if we win, the kinds of governments that domestic civil wars give rise to are almost never civilized or free, regardless of the intentions. The Republicans can be very brutal, but let's keep things in perspective here...

Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M

@BlueVeins Of course! You’re young, so don’t understand how bad it’s become. I’ll take your lead. You’ll have to live with the consequences longer.