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Is there really anti semitism in Saudi Arabia?šŸ‡øšŸ‡¦šŸ¤”

I want to write an [b]honest[/b] answer about anti semitism in Saudi Arabia.
(From my own experience)

In general , the Saudi [b]people[/b] are kind , hospitable , and warm people . you as an immigrant or a tourist from any religious background would most likely have a very pleasant, safe and welcoming experience.

However , like every country , racist people unfortunately do exist.
There are different types of racism in Saudi Arabia:
1/ Saudi vs immigrant (this is common due to 40% of the population consisting of immigrants and citizens feeling threatened especially job-wise )
2/ black vs fair skin (not very common and not as dramatic as it is in USA Uk etc )
3/ non Bedouin vs Bedouin
4/ tribal racism.

[b]Now going back to the original question, are Saudis anti semitic ?[/b]

Law wise :
No, Jews can visit and work in Saudi. it is Israeli passport holders regardless of their religion and ethnicity that cannot enter the country .
Culturally and religiously:
No , Saudis should not be anti Semitic .
Politically :
Yes they are due to the Palestine vs Israel conflict.
However , [b]Some[/b] Saudis tend to shift their hate from being towards the Israeli government and onto the Jewish people as a whole and even those who are not from Israel which is the issue of concern.

For example, there is this song we used to sing growing up and a part of it goes like this :
ā€œFalasteen bladna bladna
Wal yahood klabna klabnaā€

Which means something like : ā€œPalestine is our land our land and the Jews are our dogs our dogs ā€œ
(This song is famous in other Arab countries too )

This song is very dangerous to teach children!
Because Judaism is a religion and an ethnic group.
Thankfully, my own family is educated and used to scold me whenever Iā€™d sing it .
But a lot of my friends were not as fortunate and faced no consequences whenever they sang it .

(The vice versa exists , there are anti- Arabs among Jews specifically Israel citizens )


Thatā€™s it thanks for reading šŸŒø
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There are always a few bad apples in any country. Canā€™t judge all Saudis because of a few bad ones. That goes for most places.
pianoplayingsteve Ā· 31-35, M
@SheCallsMeCrushDaddy Don't you bring apples into this, or any fresh fruit for that matter, they are inanimate objects, just like guns. The issue is the person, not the apple.
@pianoplayingsteve oranges?? Grapes ?? or the dreaded apricots ???
pianoplayingsteve Ā· 31-35, M
@SheCallsMeCrushDaddy The scheming banana, in which you need to have some sort of bin around to throw the peel in, else you are cursed to live with its peel for some time.
Moon3624 Ā· 18-21, F
@SheCallsMeCrushDaddy you are correct.
Usa for instance Is filled with racist people
Or look at how racist Ukrainians are complaining about people of different colors and religions when they migrated to the Uk šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø
In general Saudis are welcoming of all people.
DallasCowboysFan Ā· 61-69, M
@Moon3624 Welcoming? Then why can't women drive cars or leave the house without a male escort. Do they stone people to death, they still chop off their heads with a sword.
If you are not Muslim, you cannot visit Mecca. You cannot enter the city. If you do you will be arrested and I don't think a Saudi prison is a pleasant experience.



http://www.earthlyissues.com/images/highwaymecca2.gif

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/makkah-road-signs-going-to-separating-muslims-non-muslims-saudi-arabia-60159752.jpg
Moon3624 Ā· 18-21, F
@DallasCowboysFan

1/
A:
The Saudi women can drive. Women couldnā€™t drive in the [b]past[/b] but even when they couldnā€™t they had personal live in drivers who took them everywhere.
2/
A:No such law ever existed.


3-4:
A: the last time Saudi ever stoned someone to death was decades and decades ago . Itā€™s not any worse than the American electric chair which I believe still legal in the USA and has been put to use as recent as the 2000s .
5
A/ Mecca is like the Vatican City .
Itā€™s a holy place for those who practice the religion.
Any other place in Saudi you can visit and the Saudi people are more than welcoming.
Saudi is literally safer than your country statistics wisešŸ˜…
There are already thousands of tourists who visit Saudi every year that is besides the millions of immigrants and expats of all races and religions who work in it .

Iā€™d worry about crime and all of the shootings in your country before i talk about safety in other places. There is literally a Saudi student that was murdered in usa recently and heā€™s one of many.
DallasCowboysFan Ā· 61-69, M
@Moon3624 The media here suggests otherwise. But I don't have a problem with it. As long as you are guilty. When you commit a crime that warrants the death penalty, you know the consequences prior to the crime. If you do the crime, you do the time.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia
pianoplayingsteve Ā· 31-35, M
@Moon3624 ā€˜The Saudi women can drive. Women couldnā€™t drive in the past but even when they couldnā€™t they had personal live in drivers who took them everywhere.ā€™ Yeah and thatā€™s the issue, itā€™s about taking away the personal independence of being able to drive yourself. And when the majority of the planet drives and cities are built around the presumption that people can drive,that leaves women without the independence to travel where they like. Iā€™d take being able to drive myself independently over having to rely on someone else, any day.
pianoplayingsteve Ā· 31-35, M
@DallasCowboysFan what if you donā€™t know that something is a crime? I understand that if they let things go for ignorance of the law, then everyone could just claim ignorance and you couldnā€™t prove otherwise. But at the same time, if someone doesnā€™t know that some arbitrary law exists, and they try to be a good person, but break this law not knowing itā€™s a thing, then I find the whole ā€˜ignorance of the law is not an excuse thingā€™ absolutely disgusting and no better than mob rule or vigilante actions.
Moon3624 Ā· 18-21, F
@pianoplayingsteve
ā€œ ā€˜The Saudi women can drive. Women couldnā€™t drive in the past but even when they couldnā€™t they had personal live in drivers who took them everywhere.ā€™ Yeah and thatā€™s the issue, itā€™s about taking away the personal independence of being able to drive yourself. And when the majority of the planet drives and cities are built around the presumption that people can drive,that leaves women without the independence to travel where they like. Iā€™d take being able to drive myself independently over having to rely on someone else, any day.ā€


[b]Bruh but women can drive now
That was in the past
What are you complaining about ?
You are hilarious šŸ¤£šŸ¤£[/b]
pianoplayingsteve Ā· 31-35, M
@Moon3624 Yeah, I'm referring to your reference to the past, 'bruh'.
Moon3624 Ā· 18-21, F
@pianoplayingsteve
We can talk in past tense about each and every country šŸ¤£ what is your point? It is literally meaningless.
Moreover ,
I love how your kind love to steer away from the topic of my posts.


The thing is your kind of people
Whenever they see or hear the word ā€œSaudi Arabia ā€œ
They start their regular programmed attacks without being relevant to what is actually being discussed .

When I post about a Saudi cuisine , same comments.
When I post about beautiful sites or historical places in Saudi , same comments.
When I post about the Saudi people , same comments.
When I post about the culture , same comments.

It is very pathetic and racist programmed comments.
pianoplayingsteve Ā· 31-35, M
@Moon3624 yeah, I see the usual buzz words and the emojis and your people think so and so and so I don't bother reading it. Pathetic.
Moon3624 Ā· 18-21, F
@pianoplayingsteve Im glad you realize I am right and you are unable to answeršŸ’•
Itā€™s easier when people accept theyr prejudice and move on with their lives
pianoplayingsteve Ā· 31-35, M
@Moon3624 no, itā€™s just when it comes to people who only know how to throw buzzwords, itā€™s going to be as fruitless as trying to reason with a religious person who takes the scientific claims of their books literally.
Moon3624 Ā· 18-21, F
@pianoplayingsteve
This post ainā€™t about religion
So again , your comment is irrelevant .
Go find a place where you can be relevant
pianoplayingsteve Ā· 31-35, M
@Moon3624 religion had already came up three comments in.
Moon3624 Ā· 18-21, F
@pianoplayingsteve
Yes irrelevant comments just like yours.
Moon3624 Ā· 18-21, F
@DallasCowboysFan
ā€œ The media here suggests otherwise. ā€œ

I donā€™t care about your mediašŸ˜… I am talking [b]actual statistics. [/b]
Only 4 or less ever believed to be stoned to death in Saudi and The last person ever stoned to death in Saudi Arabia by authorities was literally decades ago.
Try to give me the full name of a person who was stoned to death in Saudi Arabia And their crime and on which day they were stoned.
&
The Electric chair in usa ? Been used As recent as the 2000s.
Worse ,
Did you know that your electric chair was once used on a 14 year old boy?


And worse , he turned out to be innocent after he was tortured to death by your authorities.
Oh boy letā€™s not get into your americen lethal injections !
So I find your comments and pointing fingers to be funny .

As for the other information you mentioned such as Saudi women not being able to leave without male escort ,
it wasnā€™t and isnā€™t part of the law thatā€™s a rumor.

As for women not driving , yes they couldnā€™t in the past but now they can so I donā€™t understand your comments. Last time I checked , we live in the present.

Funny how I am the woman here telling you how beautiful of a country it is and how hospitable of a people the citizens are
yet you continue to reject something you donā€™t know anything about.
pianoplayingsteve Ā· 31-35, M
@Moon3624 itā€™s a discussion about Saudi Arabian law, and Saudi Arabian law is based largely o shariā€™a - Islamic law.
Moon3624 Ā· 18-21, F
@pianoplayingsteve
my post is about antisemitism so yes indeed everything you said is irrelevant.
And iv already established in the post that Jews can and do come to Saudi for work and tourism
it is Israeli passport holders that cannot regardless of their religious affiliation and racial background.

And for your information,
The word shariā€™a doesnā€™t mean Islamic law
The word shariā€a is the Arabic word for ā€œlawā€ and sometimes ā€œreligious lawā€
But of any religion and not strictly Islam

Islamic law
In Arabic is ā€œAl shariā€™a Al islamiyyahā€

If you donā€™t believe me take a look at google translate :




With all due respect , you have not only been completely irrelevant since the start, but you have not brought anything of substance to this comment section.

Im not trying to be rude rather Im genuinely confused , what is it you wanna get at ?
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pianoplayingsteve Ā· 31-35, M
@Moon3624 there is quite the trope on here that whenever someone doesn't agree with someone else, that their comment is therefore 'not relevant'. Doing literally anything and everything other than addressing the actual point seems to be the norm here. And anything you don't agree with is 'propaganda' that's pretty common too. People set up their way of thinking as to turn closing off to any other sort of opinion as somehow a virtue. There are plenty of things I agree with which I could also comfortably say were presented in a propagandized way, if they were.

And no, mentioning Islam in one post on a site that I've used for years does not equate to an obsession with Islam.