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Torsten · 36-40, M
and Christianity has a long history of peace and acceptance? haha come on now
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BohemianBoo · M
@redredred Christianity and Islam have both been peaceful in first world civilized countries, but have both been violent and destructive in third world countries. The religion doesn't matter, what matters is the overall culture.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@BohemianBoo i have to actually agree with you on that
redredred · M
@BohemianBoo Recent Christian violence in third world countries?Examples?
I think recent muslim violence in first world countries are actually pretty numerous. 9/11, 7/11, Nice, Charlie Hebdo etc.
I think recent muslim violence in first world countries are actually pretty numerous. 9/11, 7/11, Nice, Charlie Hebdo etc.
BohemianBoo · M
@redredred In Africa, they regularly kill women accused of witchcraft. And LGBT people are just as oppressed as in most third world Muslim countries.
redredred · M
@BohemianBoo Awful but hardly rises to the level of terrorism a la 9/11 or Nice
BohemianBoo · M
@redredred I'd say the war crimes Russia is committing in Ukraine rises to that level. And Israel's occupation of Gaza has been an incredibly long-running series of war crimes.
In both cases, religion is being used to justify the crimes. That's another thing worth mentioning. Whenever a government committed atrocities, and religion was used as justification, religious people were more likely to go along with it.
In both cases, religion is being used to justify the crimes. That's another thing worth mentioning. Whenever a government committed atrocities, and religion was used as justification, religious people were more likely to go along with it.
redredred · M
@BohemianBoo I’d say thats quite a stretch to call Russia’s invasion an act of Christian terrorism. You’re really out on a limb with that one. Really.
And the issue here is muslim vs Christian terrorism; you can leave Israel and general religious reactions out of it.
And the issue here is muslim vs Christian terrorism; you can leave Israel and general religious reactions out of it.
BohemianBoo · M
@redredred Not what I said. I said that Russia is using Christianity to justify the invasion, much like ISIS uses Islam to justify what they do. Religion has always been a tool for the powerful to manufacture consent to the public.
Well the OP was about Islam being violent. My stance is that all religions have violence in their holy texts and traditions. And every religion is used to justify violence.
Well the OP was about Islam being violent. My stance is that all religions have violence in their holy texts and traditions. And every religion is used to justify violence.