soulshadow · 36-40, M
He should have sent one of his rockets into twitter instead and saved 20 billion or so.
Bellatrix2083 · F
@soulshadow Well, he's destroying it now, so... he saved on a valuable rocket! 🚀
There's not too many phrases more than "freedom of speech" that drives me nuts. And that's because it's taken on a meaning that has little to do with what it actually is.
Today, "Free Speech" comes out of the mouths of those who want the right to hate speech. To say whatever they want without repercussions. But there are LAWS in place that prevent that.
Freedom of Speech surrounds being able to articulate thoughts without fear of government reprisal. It has ZERO to do with how an organization or outlet moderates content. They can do whatever they want within the confines of the law.
So when you hear that stuff it's always good to consider the source. PARTICULARLY given the fact that those who scream the loudest about "freedom" are also usually the first to want to deny it to those they don't agree with.
Today, "Free Speech" comes out of the mouths of those who want the right to hate speech. To say whatever they want without repercussions. But there are LAWS in place that prevent that.
Freedom of Speech surrounds being able to articulate thoughts without fear of government reprisal. It has ZERO to do with how an organization or outlet moderates content. They can do whatever they want within the confines of the law.
So when you hear that stuff it's always good to consider the source. PARTICULARLY given the fact that those who scream the loudest about "freedom" are also usually the first to want to deny it to those they don't agree with.
plungesponge · 41-45, M
I don't think it's necessarily unrestricted speech that causes a toxic atmosphere, the issue is these platforms create a feed of content and the most toxic posts get recirculated because they have high engagement (of ruining everyone's mood).
Honestly I see the problem as quite easy to fix, now there's chatgpt, it can parse content for toxicity, or these platforms can implement a dislike option that is skewed towards your friend network rather than just being a global rating. That way nobody can get "cancelled" unless it's you're friends who find their content objectionable
Honestly I see the problem as quite easy to fix, now there's chatgpt, it can parse content for toxicity, or these platforms can implement a dislike option that is skewed towards your friend network rather than just being a global rating. That way nobody can get "cancelled" unless it's you're friends who find their content objectionable
SW-User
yeah, you've missed the point lol
Musk was of the view that Twitter allowed free expression to those on the progressive Left, but not to the Right, moderates, or to people with a view or views that are currently being suppressed or cancelled. Some of these views can be very mainstream, but they don't correspond to certain narratives or ideas being promoted by leftist activists, or the leftist media.
He isn't advocating that people have free speech to the degree that they can say anything, and he evidently does believe that Twitter should be moderated.
Musk was of the view that Twitter allowed free expression to those on the progressive Left, but not to the Right, moderates, or to people with a view or views that are currently being suppressed or cancelled. Some of these views can be very mainstream, but they don't correspond to certain narratives or ideas being promoted by leftist activists, or the leftist media.
He isn't advocating that people have free speech to the degree that they can say anything, and he evidently does believe that Twitter should be moderated.
Bellatrix2083 · F
@SW-User Whose views are being "suppressed" or "cancelled"? I don't know how things are over in the U.S. or Europe (or Asia), but where I live, Australia, no one is being suppressed or "cancelled". Not to my knowledge anyway.
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
I remember a few year's ago hearing they deleted thousands of post and profiles. So not really free speech
HumanEarth · F
If its free speech
Then why do they save all the messages
Then why do they save all the messages
pjgirl · F
Messing with the Ukrainians might have been a mistake
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plungesponge · 41-45, M
@Ynotisay I'm less familiar with the links to US defense, but my impression was that Starlink had shown it was too expensive to keep providing internet for free and the defence department made an offer to subsidize it. Personally I don't think it was wise to partner with the US military, given the stated purpose was humanitarian, but business-wise I'd understand that Starlink isn't going to do this for free permanently.
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
Yes, these days "free speech" usually means not censoring the right. Now the real question is what's going to happen when there's leftist extremism? Will he still abide by his ideals of free speech absolutism (a term I heard from him) or will it be clear that this really means right-friendly censorship?
pancakeslam · 41-45, M
haven't you noticed the napoleon complexed Nazis scampering around here? we have them just on a smaller scale. also, I noticed that those comments usually go uncriticized.
pancakeslam · 41-45, M
@LordShadowfire she would not respond to me
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@pancakeslam I just PMed her to ask her about what she said, and she confirmed that's what her opinion is. Now I'm asking her for evidence that are in control of the media, yet allow people to say shit like that on the internet. I'll let you know what she says.
pancakeslam · 41-45, M
@LordShadowfire that's a new low attacking Holocaust victims and I'm sure it's just the tip of the Iceberg.
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