Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion

@JimboSaturn You don't think creation is exclusionary by definition? So, you think there are a billion ways to create an effective arm sling for a hand wound, and not just a few?

[@Therealstev @Therealsteve Yes I guess but what does that have to do with DEI? You need to link these thought together more coherently. Try to avoid over philosophical arguements that sometimes just serve to confuse so people won't want to ask.

@JimboSaturn "Try to avoid over philosophical arguements that sometimes just serve to confuse so people won't want to ask".

In other words, you can't understand the complexities behind functioning arguments, which explains your inability to synthesise these fundamentals within the contextual framework of DEI.

@Therealsteve No but I have to admit I am confused by your logic. If you can't explain it to me with common language, then I feel you are trying to hoodwink me by trying to sound smart.

How does the limited number of ways of solving a problem, or inventing something have to do with ensuring that a workplace properly reflects the racial composition of a soceity?

@JimboSaturn Because I already know from conversations with other people lacking in education that anything beyond your basic understanding counts as "confusing", "hoodwinking" and therefore something for you to dismiss, creating a negative cycle for yourself in which you can't reach the greater potential for understanding that is within you.

I get it, it comes up in my management and education degrees. Systems create cycles of executive function -and parameters within the habits, understandings etc to serve the premises of those executive functions- to replicate those same systems. Including ideological systems, which become compounded when those ideological systems are created to justify the closed systems of ignorance inherent to the limits of your cognitive systems.

And that's just scratching the surface.

@Therealsteve OH LOL, You don't sound smart! This is exactly my point. You are trying to obscure a clear answer with jargon. It's the oldest trick in the boook . Give me a break, I understand what you are trying to say, I just don't think you know the answer to my question

How does the limited number of ways to invent something or solve a problem have to do with ensuring a workforce properly represents the greater population ?

@Therealsteve Read George Orwell's essay "Politics and the English Language"

@JimboSaturn No, it's called having an education. You have nothing of value to say and so you want to make it emotional with accusations of intent.

Here's part of my management degree.

@JimboSaturn I already have. Whilst running an English academy in Malaysia I had a course on Orwell that people spent thousands to attend.

@JimboSaturn AGain, still haven't answered my question.

@JimboSaturn You: -asks a question-

Me: - answers it-

You: -doesn't understand it so ignores it, calling it a word salad and assumes ill intent- "How about I reword what I said, now answer it"

Me: - answers it-

You: -doesn't understand it so ignores it, calling it a word salad and assumes ill intent- "How about I reword what I said, now answer it"

Me: -answers it-

You: -doesn't understand it so ignores it, calling it a word salad and assumes ill intent- "How about I reword what I said, now answer it"

Me: -gets bored and leaves-

You: "Oh, so you refuse to answer even my basic questions, why cant you even answer basic questions?"

Lol.

@Therealsteve So what is the answer? You haven't answered. You showed my your "management" degree paper. You explains how deffiicient I am in the most pompous ways you can and then lied about running an English academy.

Hightlight and paste where you answered my question.

@JimboSaturn You are indeed academically insufficient, yes. Explains why looking at your profile you resort to making political cheapshots in place of posting anything of value, eh?

You asked me to "try to avoid over philosophical arguements that sometimes just serve to confuse so people won't want to ask" and so I answered that with:

"I get it, it comes up in my management and education degrees. Systems create cycles of executive function -and parameters within the habits, understandings etc to serve the premises of those executive functions- to replicate those same systems. Including ideological systems, which become compounded when those ideological systems are created to justify the closed systems of ignorance inherent to the limits of your cognitive systems."

Now, here's an idea I already posited to avoid that, stop making an argument from intent and make an actual argument, yeah?

@Therealsteve That was a word salad intented to obscure meaning. Humour me and try to explain that to me in layman's terms oh great one.

So are you trying to say that DEI philosophy is just a feeble attempt to replicate our notions of social justice into a system in which it is incompatible?

@JimboSaturn BTW give the name an address of the English academy.

@JimboSaturn Lol, I just pointed out a huge issue with you is you just dismiss an educated reply with "that's a word salad intended to do x".

So, what's the point? Any response of value will be a "word salad with negative intent" to you.

@JimboSaturn Jalan Layang, Taman Perling, 81200 Johor Bahru, Johor Darul Ta'zim, Malaysia.

It started as an educational psychology centre. And as it was hugely invested into children with communication development issues and with people with my profile being in high demand for English tuition I expanded it into ESOL tuition.

@Therealsteve So you admit, you can't do it. OK.

If you did have this superior academic intelligence, it should be easy for you to explain to me. I think that is something you lifted off somewhere to try to sound smart. I'm going to post this answer to SW and get a consensus.

@JimboSaturn You're telling me you don't understand that phrase, too? On top of everything else lol

@Therealsteve Yes I do understand that phrase. Your wisdom is the pearls and we are the swine.

@JimboSaturn You got the wisdom part right.

Here's some advice for you, Jimbo - get a formal education. As you become more successful you'll find you'll have less of a tendency to have a jerk reaction of ascribing intent and "word salads" to drag others down and have a desire to join in the building of knowledge and workable systems.

You have the potential to be a LOT better than how you are now. Good luck.