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Have you ever observed some people and how they complain that they never get any straight answers when they ask confronting questions

and as you're observing, you can see that whatever answers they DO get they just totally disregard

Like fam, if you're gonna act like a brick wall then don't get mad if people don't bother answering your questions 😂
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I like it when people who ask obnoxious "gotcha" questions get mad when you refuse to play their stupid game 😂
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@SW-User some people have already decided theyve got you before theyve said anything to you, because they dont like your opinion. Then anything you say to them, no matter how calmly stated or factually driven, they respond to with name calling, mocking etc
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@pianoplayingsteve Yep. Usually I'm pretty good at avoiding those people and discerning their contempt for me, but other times I regret engaging.
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
Some “straight” answers though are just a very stupid persons stupid opinion with zero constructive measures to the criticism at all..
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
@Fishy maybe it’s because it’s so obvious once it’s explained that they don’t want to feel that stupid??
Fishy · 36-40, F
@AuRevoir But that actually makes them look more stupid, because its so obvious but they still don't get it 😂
Fishy · 36-40, F
@AuRevoir But, to be totally fair, I suppose some answers raise more questions, 🤔

and if they are asking additional questions for the purpose of understanding (not arguing) then that's cool
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pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
I note that when I ask someone a question that has a tinge of politics to it, and they quite outspoken leftist, they always need to know why I’m asking it, who I may be quoting etc rather than just giving me a direct honest answer to whatever I’m asking. Why can’t they just give me their honest opinion, rather than some ideologically curated one based on why I’m asking it and who may have said it
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy no I didn’t, I mention certain leftist people. If I mention a vegetarian does that mean I want a full context discussion on vegetarianism and meat eating? Or if I complain about one politician to I then have to provide an analyses of every politician? Or like a normal person can I just express issues I have with individual people?
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I note that when I ask someone a question that has a tinge of politics to it, and they quite outspoken leftist, they always need to know why I’m asking it, who I may be quoting etc rather than just giving me a direct honest answer to whatever I’m asking

That and

I mention certain leftist people. ... But only when it comes to having an issue with the left

contradict your claim.

If you have not had rightists NOT give you a straight answer, then you haven't talked to them here, much, or you are one.

If I mention a vegetarian does that mean I want a full context discussion on vegetarianism and meat eating? Or if I complain about one politician to I then have to provide an analyses of every politician?

No, but I have never seen THAT behavior here, and they don't seem equivalent to asking you where you got the question, etc.

There are lots of posts here where people pretend to be asking a question, but they are actually making a point in a roundabout way. Ex: A gal asked why Belle in Beauty and the Beast wasn't happy in her quiet village, like a straight question. In a few responses, it was clear that her point was not to.ask that question, but to assert that *she* preferred the quiet, small town. It was not clear that it was a trap question.

And it happens in political posts.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy I don’t think any one group, idea or person will have all the answers. I don’t think any one group, idea or person is completely good or evil, either. I just like to learn of new ways to look at things. As such, I often question people from the left and the right, or make harmless jokes about people, or things, or happenings associated with either side of the political spectrum.

I see the good arguments of socialism and have benefited economically having lived in a socialist economy most of my life. I also see the good arguments made by people who don’t agree with, at least, socialism of the vast majority of services. (I think everyone agrees with at least a very tiny level of socialism in order for a society to exist). I had a friend who was outspokenly far leftist and another who was outspokenly libertarian right (he was a local libertarian politician). I could question the latter’s position all day and he’d more than happily calmly explain his thoughts. With the leftist, I ask one question about socialism and it was ‘you want to kill all disabled people! You want to destroy the NHS!’ And his fiends joined in throwing a list of buzzword accusations at me that had nothing to do with what I said. I’m also disabled and was treated by the same NHS as him, for the record.

In another instance I brought up Jordan Peterson to a left leaning friend. Immediately he goes ‘he’s an alt right pseudo intellectual!’ I explained that actually he had two degrees and a PhD and he backtracked a little but wouldn’t explain how he came to such a counter reality claim. I then brought up another figure he may have been lied to about, and he acts as if the world was ending and blocked me.

There was another lady I knew that grew up in the same church as me. She went full on with the BLM stuff to the point that she was flat out making things up so she could get likes on Facebook. She one time made this ridiculous claim that the church she grew up in was super oppressive as a few of her friends were getting into the whole Christianity is pure evil thing. So I politely comment telling her that I went to the same church as her and that they were absolutely lovely to everyone. She just responds by mocking me and naturally insinuating that I’m some sort of unrelated ism and phobe. I had some other leftist go absolutely insane and block me because I suggested that someone shouldn’t be banned from all social media because he personally happens to disagree with her. I don’t particularly agree with everything she said either, but that doesn’t give me or anyone else the right to ban them from social media.

However at the same time, when I ask my socially right leaning christian dad what he thinks of, say, Richard Dawkins, who spent years attacking his faith, his response is ‘he’s a great man, much more intelligent than I am’ and if he were to disagree with Dawkins, he’d simply tell me why based on the merit of his argument , as opposed to calling him names. As seemed to be the attitude of everyone at the church. I was given polite arguments and recommended books if I ever brought up atheism. Attacking me as a person was unthinkable. Yet let’s take that Dawkins example, ive seen people on the left refer to Dawkins as ‘islamophobic’ and ‘racist’ for applying a bit of the criticism he has for Christianity, to Islam aswell.

I could go on, but there is a word limit.

 
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