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That's not true for everyone, there are all kind of theists and atheists
@SW-User So good to hear a Positive response
WhateverWorks · 36-40
Mainly the ‘ it all comes down to faith’ thing, but also that the only way to resolve the science/religion cognitive dissonance is for the religious-scientist to conclude that the vast majority of scripture is metaphorical or a hallucination. If we agree then that the vast majority of the stories are metaphorical, not literal then we also agree on the flimsiness of that as evidence of anything since metaphors are greatly interpretational, a.k.a. debatable/unclear etc
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PiecingBabyFaceTogether · 31-35, M
@Messi Thanks.
WhateverWorks · 36-40
@Messi The trouble is when people start letting their religion influence the interpretation of their findings as a scientist. granted, this is an issue with anybody’s beliefs influencing their work. (Problematic when that bias work influences other peoples’ attitudes and behaviors/laws/policies). For a really long time ‘religious scientists’ pushed that women were inept, people of color were an inferior species, non-heteronormative people were a ‘ scientifically supported abomination‘. Religious scientists have antagonized the murder of people throughout history who had come across findings that weren’t congruent with their scriptures.. Religious scientists have interfered with environmental awareness/activism because of that whole ‘man was given the garden’ thing.
So… on a day-to-day basis we all do our best to get along, but religious scientists in reality have been pretty problematic.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m aware that there are other problematic scientists, not just religious scientists, but I’m keeping my thoughts on topic.
So… on a day-to-day basis we all do our best to get along, but religious scientists in reality have been pretty problematic.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m aware that there are other problematic scientists, not just religious scientists, but I’m keeping my thoughts on topic.
@WhateverWorks Thank you for that response
RoxClymer · 41-45, M
at least here in the US, we've learn there are 2 sides and only 2 sides to everything, right/wrong, plus/minus, religion/science, democrat/republican.....which has become our major downfall, because no one is willing to meet in the middle for a third option.
AdaXI · 41-45, T
@RoxClymer I agree like UK we are more central we don't sit arguing over such things. Not saying that there isn't flaws in being a nanny state far far from it but arguing over politics and religion we just don't do it because there isn't a massive swing from one side of the coin to the other when we vote different parties in or in how a religious person and an atheist view life.
Like I can talk to my mum who's a Christian about the dinosaurs and she ain't gonna be like well that's wrong, carbon dating wrong or any of that cr&p, or the bible is all word for word literal and correct because it is the word of God because like I say everybody is just more centralised so it's easier to meet in the middle without picking holes in everything when you are all starting around about in the middle to begin with.
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Like I can talk to my mum who's a Christian about the dinosaurs and she ain't gonna be like well that's wrong, carbon dating wrong or any of that cr&p, or the bible is all word for word literal and correct because it is the word of God because like I say everybody is just more centralised so it's easier to meet in the middle without picking holes in everything when you are all starting around about in the middle to begin with.
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wildbill83 · 41-45, M
Atheist science is politicized and publicized; Religious science is slandered and censored.
Atheists can't stand the fact that the majority of history's greatest scientists, thinkers, inventors, etc. were Christians...
Francis Bacon
Galileo Galilei
Johannes Kepler
Isaac Newton
James Prescott Joule
Robert Boyle
André-Marie Ampère
Gregor Mendel
William Thomson (Lord Kelvin)
Michael Faraday
Nicola Tesla
Werner Heisenberg
just to name a few...
Atheists can't stand the fact that the majority of history's greatest scientists, thinkers, inventors, etc. were Christians...
Francis Bacon
Galileo Galilei
Johannes Kepler
Isaac Newton
James Prescott Joule
Robert Boyle
André-Marie Ampère
Gregor Mendel
William Thomson (Lord Kelvin)
Michael Faraday
Nicola Tesla
Werner Heisenberg
just to name a few...
@wildbill83 very interesting answer
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
Also partly the reason technology has become so stagnated; progress used to be about discovery and improving lives; nowadays it seems it's more about publicity, marketing and controlling people...
DocSavage · M
Never said that myself. People always like to bring up the fact that the man who came up with the Big Bang theory was clergy.
The opinion is, that scientist are bound by realistic, provable evidence.religion has to acknowledge the unprovable supernatural, at least as far as the existence of god applies.
Sooner or later, the two are going to come into conflict
The opinion is, that scientist are bound by realistic, provable evidence.religion has to acknowledge the unprovable supernatural, at least as far as the existence of god applies.
Sooner or later, the two are going to come into conflict
There are religious people that are scientists. But there are no religious extremists scientists. Science and religion are only compatible up to a certain point. If your faith tells you the earth is flat then you're wrong. If your faith tells you there is something out there, then it could be right. It really just depends on how intransigent the person of faith is in accepting reality.
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I mean, a lot of religious people insist that they are. 🤷♂️
DrSunnyTheSkeptic · 26-30, M
Because someone who's devout religious would have to accept a certain version for the origin of things that conflicts with what the scientific fields discover.
JohnnySpot · 56-60, M
Allow me to point out the flaws in this questioning.
@JohnnySpot through experience. thats one way
JohnnySpot · 56-60, M
@Messi sorry I read the question wrong
@JohnnySpot That's okay, you are entitled to you r opinion either way
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
only the real ones know. i'm glad you brought this topic up.
Ceinwyn · 26-30, F
They don’t.
PiecingBabyFaceTogether · 31-35, M
Have you tried arguing about that with a Muslim? No? Then I don't know what to tell you. Imagine having a terminal illness and people believing that some guy in the sky can simply lift it and remove it via a prayer. Where's the science in that sci-fi madness? 🤔
Elessar · 26-30, M
They don't
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
Chickie · F
Good question, you can still be a scientist and have faith or beliefs
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Religion requires a steadfast refusal to apply the scientific method to your own beliefs.