Gordon Chang, Asia Analyst, says that China released this virus deliberately, and that they will do it again. True? False?

He says that first the Chinese lied, deliberately, about human to human transmission, and they closed their own borders, yet allowed infected Chinese citizens to fly all over the world. THEN they applied pressure to all the countries who wanted to close their borders, stating that only xenophobia would cause countries to do so, so many borders remained open long after infected travelers from China should have been excluded.

In effect, these actions spread what could have been a localized epidemic, and caused a pandemic.

Gordon Chang believes China was doing this to weaken worldwide economies so that they can become THE dominating world power.

He says they WILL do this again.

If they release even one more virus on the world, is there any hope of HUMAN survival?

What are your opinions?

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Wraithorn · 51-55, M

I don't believe that. I think it would be helpful to find out who has paid Gordon Chang to say that.
There is as much evidence for that as there is for Russia influencing the last US elections. Zero evidence. Rumour and hearsay is not evidence.

4meAndyou · F

@Wraithorn We will probably have to wait and see...BUT...that being said, there is usually no smoke without fire.

And we DO have evidence about Russia trying to influence the last elections...Facebook took down the Russian trolls, and lawsuits were filed against the Russians who owned those accounts...even though it will never go to court...and their visas were permanently revoked. It was established by our intelligence agencies that the Russians in question WERE employed by their government.

Wraithorn · 51-55, M

@4meAndyou As far as I know none of those Russians in the whole FB saga had accounts that influenced the elections in any way. Those of them who were charged with crimes were NOT charged with anything that influenced the outcome of the elections.

Also, if one is to assume that a few FB accounts could influence the elections in such a way, then we also have to assume that Americans are generally dimwits. I don't believe they are.

This is the power of the media which is used by their handlers to affect public opinion in justifying many things, including war. They repeat the same crap over and over so that people end up believing it even though NO hard evidence is shown.

If you trust your intelligence agencies then I suggest you think again. Keep in mind that they and British intelligence were responsible for spreading the biggest conspiracy theory in the past century. The "fact" that Saddam Hussein had WMD when they knew very well that he did not. That lie they told repeatedly (using the media etc), in order to convince the public that war was the best option, caused death and destruction to literally millions of people. And were they prosecuted for that terrible and blatant lie ?
No, of course not. Why not ? Maybe because Persians have mostly brown skin so the rest of us Whities don't really give a fuck.

I'm not ranting at you dear lady. I am raging against the machine that worships money and power and uses you and I as cannon fodder.

4meAndyou · F

@Wraithorn You are correct in that...but why were they there on Facebook? To sow division...this one trolling for Hillary, that one trolling for Trump, and all of them working for mother Russia.

They were charged by our DOJ but we can't prosecute them. And I disagree about the intelligence of most Americans. Look at any breakdown of populace in ANY country where intelligence has been measured...and you will see that most people are average or slightly below average in intelligence...and when you stack that against manipulation by our media and by the Chinese who have infiltrated our schools with their money and their agenda, most people are having the wool pulled over their eyes. IMO. Some just want to get rich off the Chinese.

Agree completely about our MSM here. Repeat a lie about 50 million times, and suddenly everyone thinks it is the truth.

It's true we have had some real scum running Washington for the past 20 years, and we are now trying to "drain the swamp", including Brennan's CIA and Comey's FBI, and root out the criminals who are entrenched therein. The takedown of Michael Flynn, who was to have become the new boss of National Security, by crooks inside the FBI, (because they knew him and didn't like him), by deliberately setting him up and threatening his son, is coming to light now.

I don't know nearly enough about the takedown of Saddam Hussein...I do know that George Bush, a Republican, was President in 2006 when Hussein was taken down. As to skin color motivations, I sincerely doubt it. And I would say so if I thought otherwise.

I agree completely that my country has been selling us ALL down the river for a very long time...and it's time to take it back and make it just even a tiny bit more lawful...wouldn't that be great? Don't hold your breath. But at least THIS president is going to try.