So how is health care for illegal immigrants going to be paid? I can see a couple of problems.

All the Democrat Socialist candidates raised their hands during the debates, stating they would all pay for free health care for illegal immigrants, so now this becomes something we have to seriously consider. I understand that Medicare is now funded by taxes.

What I am seeing is a problem with limits.

The same candidates who want to provide free health care for illegal immigrants also don't want to limit the number of illegal immigrants who can just decide they want to live here, and come up through the the southern border, without end.

So basically, we're talking unlimited free health care for anyone and everyone in the world who just decides they want to live here. We are talking about people who, for the most part, can't speak English, and can't read and write English, and they will only be able to get the most low paying jobs because of that, if they can even find an employer willing to hire them.

The lowest wage earners will not be able to earn enough individually to pay in enough taxes to cover the cost of free Medicare for themselves, and they have definitely not been paying health care taxes into the system since their teens to cover the cost.

Portland, Maine, is now filled to bursting with a large number of African illegal immigrants. That particular lot feel very entitled, and began demanding their free benefits quite rudely the moment they arrived. People are coming to the southern border from all over the world expecting a free lunch.

At what point will the system crash due to overload?

I am only interested in polite and well thought out responses. Rude or abusive people, please do not respond.

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nightowl7 · 46-50, M

I'm sure you have found "facts" to substantiate your claims here. First, understand NOTHING is EVER free. We ALL pay for it, one way or another...My answer is a simple one. Almost all modern, civilized, nations have some form of "socialism" within their governmental structure. Most all have government health insurance, and it works great! That is the ONLY way we can provide for our large populations. I don't understand why this is so hard for anyone to understand. You must also understand that We also ALL PAY for it when we DON'T have socialized programs. That's why insurance premiums are through the roof...and they pay out less now. Somebody has to pay for uninsured hospital expenses, and they pass it on to the rest of us. Just as ANY other FOR PROFIT business. The price of everything...goes up!

Bottom line, we all have to pay more. I don't mind paying more when I see people benefitting. It's like a donation where we all benefit in some way. What I mind, are politicians telling people we CAN'T do this, when the rest of the world is making it work.

4meAndyou · F

@nightowl7 I did ask that responders not be rude. I ask you to read the math I provided for countscrofula, below.

Kowlick · 46-50, M

@4meAndyou Ah you're missing recessive taxes federal, state, local increases in local economy, help with inflation, more services rendered, more good sold, etc etc. It's a vastly complicated issue what immigration levels are needed to sustain economic growth.

4meAndyou · F

@Kowlick It's extremely basic. If an illegal immigrant does not earn more than minimum wage, as I outlined below, his or her earnings are insufficient to pay for "free" or government supplemented services. Like Walmart employees, most of them, additionally, will draw upon other services such as food stamps, and fuel assistance.

Discretionary spending for a man or woman who earns only $12,000 in taxable income goes to paying rent. Unless they live in California, in which case no one earning minimum wage can afford rent which starts at $1800 a month and goes up. Average rent in California is just $3000 short of the entire gross income.

The only one getting rich would be the landlord, who would have to rent out a one bedroom to three families so they could afford the rent. They are NOT goosing the local economy, they are draining public services dry, instead.

I will make a bargain with you. If such legislation ever comes to pass, let us wait for two years to see the impact. I predict that within two years, just like Obamacare, health care for all will fold, because it is so poorly thought out.

Kowlick · 46-50, M

@4meAndyou Well lets hope ACA doesnt fail I'll probably die lol. Well I'll root not to be dead at least others opinions differ 😉