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The truth about flu shots and vaccines?

What's your opinion on it? I hear a lot about it on both sides, both for and against. It's a very controversial subject, but I'm just interested in everyone's opinions. How has it affected you or someone you love? Have you had an experience with it?
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Earthwrap · 41-45, M
If we actually lived in a free country people would have the choice to get them or not get them. It's ridiculous forcing people to get them when almost all of the studies are funded by the mega pharmaceutical companies creating them.
@Earthwrap But some things can be proven, for example the number of people dying from certain diseases have lessened with medical intervention. We know this because some people who were alive [b]then[/b] and saw lots of people die are still here, now that such deaths are a rarity. I had classmates with polio when I was a child. Few people contract polio now, although only 3 countries on record have not eradicated the disease, in some cases because of superstitions about the vaccine.
Earthwrap · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard Yes and you can also visit the CDC's website and look up all the deaths related to vaccines. That's center for disease control. https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html There is no proving anything if you understood science. It's statistics looking for probabilities.
fairone · F
@bijouxbroussard 👍absolutely right on target!
@Earthwrap I'm familiar with that, too. And yet even [b]they[/b] recommend vaccines in the majority of cases, do they not ? They explain about making informed decisions to protect your child from diseases, which implies they see vaccines as the lesser risk.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/vaccine-decision/index.html
Earthwrap · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard Then go for it. I have almost died possibly due to one. No thanks. I want to live in a free country where we have choice. I believe in evolution and that we did just fine before we invented technology that drains our immune systems. I also don't like being a lab rat with these basically untested vaccines that have no long term studies.
@Earthwrap I have, thank you. And you [b]do[/b] have a choice. You can homeschool your children and then you don't have to have them vaccinated. That way they won't risk infecting [b]other[/b] people's children, who [b]also[/b] have rights.
Earthwrap · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard Yes and your vaccinated children won't infect other children. You really can't say any of this for sure. You are basically just repeating what other people said. I doubt you have a degree in immunology or even know the difference between IgE IgM IgG IgA mediated resopnses. Also maybe take a social justice class and realize that you don't have a choice when public school is free and private or home school isn't. There is such a thing as having a choice without really having a choice. Good luck going to college too and getting that degree that is required for certain higher paying jobs without mandatory vaccinations.
Earthwrap · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard " That way they won't risk infecting other people's children, who also have rights." You got to be kidding me here. How about my right not to breath the exhaust of your car then? lol But feel free to go out on that limb of an argument. With that said, it is within my right to block you and not waste my time on this conversation anymore that is more complicated than I feel you have considered.
@Earthwrap And you're basically repeating what fear-mongers and conspiracy theorists believe, although if you [b]do[/b] have a degree in immunology (mine was in education and I was a public school teacher for awhile), then I'll gladly listen. I'm not trying to have an argument here, and I'm speaking respectfully. But in my state after several measles outbreaks that put kids in danger, this became law.