Did you take the vaccine? If not will you?

@ElwoodBlues

This is the thing that i don't see the anti-vaxx crowd responding to.
At the very best they call it an outright lie and conspiracy...because they cannot argue against the statistics that the vaccines are reducing the probability of serious illness and death.

@Pikachu Remember, this is the crowd that grew up rejecting evolution and the geological age of the Earth. This is the crowd who thinks climatology is all a giant conspiracy. They've spent decades training themselves to reject anything that disagrees with their preconceptions. It isn't until their on their Covid deathbeds begging for thr medical science they've been rejecting, that they start to realize the errors of their ways.

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

@ElwoodBlues BS. I don't go by graphs, I go by real true experiences that myself and others have lived through. Myself and many I know had the covid, they survived just fine.

@SW-User When I went to school, they taught us that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.' So you're idea is to direct public health via anecdote?

@SW-User Man's name is/was Doug Kuzma. Swore he would stay home, but he died in the hospital. He caught it at "ReAwaken America" tour event in Dallas over the weekend of Dec. 10.

If you love anecdotes, spend some time browsing https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/
Myself, I prefer statistically significant data.

@SW-User

[quote] I go by real true experiences that myself and others have lived through[/quote]

Ok. So let's use that as a metric.
I expect that yourself and many you know have survived a car trip just fine.
Based on the true experience that you and others have lived through, are automobile accidents one of the leading causes of death in America?
In your personal experience, are a lot of people dying in car accidents?

Because in the same way that the data show that an awful lot of people are dying in car wrecks, the data show that the people being hospitalized and/or dying as a result of COVID are overwhelmingly unvaccinated.

Here's the thing: Human brains are not set up to properly evaluate statistics. We're evolutionarily set up to put value on the personal stories of our close friends and family.
But i hope you can see from my example that limited personal experience is not necessarily an great indicator for the overall statistical trend.

@ElwoodBlues the media is controlled by the vaccine communities 🤣🤣
Ofc you're gonna find statistics and articles.
I survived covid just fine while my vaxxed mom couldn't move for 4 days

@Hassan
So for you the data is part of the conspiracy.
What then would convince you that you're wrong? Is there anything? Is your position then based on evidence or based on ideology?

@Pikachu let's just wait and see 👍

@Pikachu @ElwoodBlues I don't give a shite about your memes and blah blah blah. Didn't even read them. 😆 You will never convince me, so stop with the fanaticism or find another sheep to inject with the lies.

[quote]I survived covid just fine while my vaxxed mom couldn't move for 4 days[/quote]
And your two data points disprove 60,000,000 cases and 836,000 deaths in the US?? LOL!!!

@Hassan

No i asked you an important question and i'd like to see you show the intellectual honesty of answering it.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're someone who wants to based their view of what is true on [i]evidence[/i].
So i ask you again:[i] What then would convince you that you're wrong? Is there anything? Is your position then based on evidence or based on ideology?[/i]

@SW-User

[quote]You will never convince me, so stop with the fanaticism[/quote]

Shall i assume that the irony of that declaration escapes you?😕
I asked you an honest question and asked you to legitimately consider the statement you were making...and you respond by calling me a fanatic?
Does that strike you as intellectually honest?

@SW-User Don't worry, we're not posting for you. We're posting because it's highly amusing to see morons reveal their moronic "thinking." Yes, your expertise in epidemiology is truly impressive, [b]ROTFL!!![/b]

@ElwoodBlues @Pikachu Three words: [b]Mass Formation Psychosis.[/b]

@SW-User

I'd really appreciate it if you responded more thoughtfully to the post i made about the relative reliability of anecdotal experience vs statistics.

Please don't don't treat me as an enemy but just another human being who is sharing their point of view and trying to understand yours.

@SW-User [quote]What then would convince you that you're wrong? Is there anything? [/quote]
One good start would be alternative data on deaths in the US. Have you got different statistically significant data?

Another would be someone revealing the giant conspiracy that seems to include millions of medical personnel. Some emails between them talking about how to fake data, that kind of thing.

There's a guy on SW trying to prove the "round Earth" is a giant NASA conspiracy. Maybe you could get some pointers from him!

@SW-User [quote]Mass Formation Psychosis.[/quote] Great, got some science on that? Or is that just a new name for an old conspiracy theory?