What feminism means to me is seeing the true structures of the societies we live in

@Torsten sounds like a toxic environment.

@LilithoftheTrees or toxic victim culture

@Torsten define modern feminism though.

@LilithoftheTrees feminism now

@Torsten feminism now? What is that?

@LilithoftheTrees haha seriously? Its feminists in 2022

@Torsten not sure what country you are from so you define as modern feminism bas hateful women?

@LilithoftheTrees because it does. Its basically a man hating group now

@Torsten Can't agree
All my friends are feminist (men too) and looking online and in leftist circles I can't say that there is a hate on men besides a very small minority of people who are crazy.

@Torstennah, just because there are misandrists in a group that doesn’t mean that defines the whole group.

@LilithoftheTrees of course not but when the majority are in that group, the decent ones actually looking for real equality get drowned out

@SW-User I agree. My friends are feminist and not even leftist. There is no hatred on men. In fact there is a lot of awareness from men and women in my circle as I live in one of the rape capitals of the world.

@Torsten where do you live just for interest sake?

@LilithoftheTrees I dont say where I live now

@Torsten somewhere where blanket statements are acceptable or perhaps it’s the circles you move around in.

@LilithoftheTrees do you consider yourself as a feminist?

@Torsten without a doubt.

@LilithoftheTrees so you're biased, and I imagine look at feminism as a whole based on your own feelings towards it instead of look at what it truly is today now and what actual people it attracts.
Ever wonder why so many women are trying to get far away from the whole feminist stuff these days?

@LilithoftheTrees He means feminism today is not about "women's empowerment or equal representation in political/social/economic structures" but rather unhinged intersectionalism which scapegoats hetrosexual western men as the underlying root of all issues.

@Glassysky I know what he means but that being said it’s all about where you live and perspective. Hence me asking where he resides. Thanks for explaining though.

@Torsten Women try to get away from it? That's new. Most are Either for it or indifferent towards it. Those who opose it hold generally more anti humanist positions and are into right wing politics.

@LilithoftheTrees well where do you live? You are a feminist, so It should be important to know where bouts you are

In South Africa. @Torsten

@SW-User its not that new. So many women do not consider themselves feminists now. You mention right wing politics but what does that have to do with it? Is feminism only a left sided political group now?

@LilithoftheTrees Quite the dangerous country.