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probably not, talk in texas years ago after Obama was elected was similar

it's all talk
katielass · F
@TwilitSona: Except Texas is the only state who actually has the legal right to secede.
That doesn't change that it's all the same bullshit talk
katielass · F
No one claimed it did
Then why even say it as if it's relevant to my comment?

Not to mention Secession is illegal regardless of State, no state has any more legal grounds than another. And that's been the supreme courts outlook since Texas v White.

Any state seceding from the union is treason period.
katielass · F
Get over yourself. I offered a fact that was relevant to the thread. If you don't like facts you are free to ignore them. I see you are not educated but that's not my job. You can remain stupid and ignorant for all I care.
It not relevant to my comment, and it's also false.

If Texas or California (or any other state) were to leave the union it's illegal and treason.

If your goal is to make relevant comments to this entire thread then make your own damn comment. Since it's targeted at me I have every right to shit talk it, especially since it's a lie.


Excerpt from Texas V. White where Texas was sueing for bonds sold illegally during the civil war where Texas Argued that it was impossible for Texas to have seceded because they 1) no legal grounds to secede 2) the union is industructible so it is impossible to dismantle any part of it.


Chase, [Chief Justice], ruled in favor of Texas on the ground that the Confederate state government in Texas had no legal existence on the basis that the secession of Texas from the United States was illegal. The critical finding underpinning the ruling that Texas could not secede from the United States was that, following its admission to the United States in 1845, Texas had become part of "an indestructible Union, composed of indestructible states." In practical terms, this meant that Texas has never seceded from the United States.

That is why the the Constitution sought to establish a more perfect Union, which is perpetual in it's existence which is carried over from the Articles of the Confederation.

So don't tell me some bullshit​ about ignorance, you're literally sprouting lies and essentially saying Texas has grounds for treason. Secession is Treason, anyone who thinks they have a valid reason to remove a state from the union is a traitor. I don't know who you are but educated and a patriot you are not.
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@TwilitSona: I do believe the only valid grounds for secession is revolution. Which would be treasonous in itself, but a successful revolution would make that a moot point.
@UndeadPrivateer: Exactly, the only way to secede is to be a traitor and to succeed in revolting making the criminality of your actions irrelevant