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What have we learned from the passenger being "voluntarily removed" from the United Airlines flight?

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SW-User
We learned the passenger is a kook. A disgraced doctor who traded oxys for gay sex. He was found by a psychiatrist to have poor decision making skills.
Public sharing of this kind of "info" is not consistent with medical ethics. Too much coincidence for all those accusations to surface almost over night. I think this "psychiatrist" is likely himself a fraud.
fun4us2b · M
Lol - yes, he should have chosen Delta!
SW-User
I assume it was all public from his professional discipline and his criminal trial.
Does that mean it was okay to drag him off the plane ?🤔
SW-User
@bijouxbroussard: he was asked twice to leave. He did the first violence by refusing.
TheProphet · M
@bijouxbroussard: Yes it does. He inconvenienced all the other passengers and delayed the flight by over an hour.
Serenitree · F
@Wilbury: had he paid his fare, in good faith?

Apr. 11/17
9:03 pm
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SW-User
@Serenitree: yes he paid his fare but he didn't buy the airplane. His remedies were a matter for another day. Instead he made a decision to use force.
@Wilbury: I guess I saw a different tape. They appeared to lay hands on him first.
@lastbabyboomer: The airline inconvenienced the passengers by overbooking the flight. But for that, there should've been no need to make anyone get off the plane who had paid their fare in good faith.
SW-User
@bijouxbroussard: by rufusing the request to leave he was using force. This wasn't a public place it was a private airplane
TheProphet · M
@bijouxbroussard: It's a common accepted practice that keeps them from losing money. There are often people who don't show up and that results in empty seats. It's part of the cost to keep airfares low.
@Wilbury: Whose error made it necessary for him to leave the plane ? Maybe I'm not understanding what happened. Did he do something wrong, or did the airline choose him arbitrarily to give up his flight because they miscalculated ?
Serenitree · F
@Wilbury: yes. He chose an inappropriate way of dealing with it. I'm wondering, was he the last person to buy a ticket on that flight? Is that how they decided he should be the one to be left behind?

I ask for a reason. I had an issue, not like this; much smaller issue, in a restaurant, not on a plane, but they threatened to call security if I didn't leave. I still think I was in the right. But I had two small children with me, so I left.

If he was not the last to but a ticket, why was he the one told to leave?

Apr. 11/17
9:17 pm
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TheProphet · M
@bijouxbroussard: He was picked at random by computer with 3 other people. As fair a way as was possible.
SW-User
@Serenitree: 4 were chosen at random. Right or wrong can be settled without violence. Refusing to stand up is viovent
@lastbabyboomer: So in order for the airline not to lose money, they inconvenienced a passenger who had done nothing wrong ? It still doesn't seem fair.
TheProphet · M
@bijouxbroussard: You're right it doesn't seem fair, but that is how all the airlines operate.
Serenitree · F
@Wilbury: and why was he allowed to board the plane if all seats were already filled. None of this would have occurred, even with the overbooking problem, if he had been told that there were no seats left and that they would be sure he was first on the next flight out. Any unpleasantness, then would have happened in the airport, not on the plane. The other passengers wouldn't have been delayed. There would have been no laying on of hands.

The airline was definitely in the wrong from overbooking and counting on someone to not show up, to allowing him to board an already full plane. He was reacting very much as many of you might have reacted, but would probably deny the possibility that you might feel angry enough to stand your ground if you felt you were being wronged.

This kind of thing is one of the many reasons I don't travel for anything but absolute necessities, anymore. There is zero respect for the traveller....unless, maybe.....???they treat first class passengers better. Do they?

Apr. 11/17
9:31 pm
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@Wilbury, a psychiatrist sharing confidential patient info, is not only breaking Pt/Doctor code of ethics, but is also breaking "Patient privilege" laws. If this "info" has been truly released publicly the psychiatrist can be sued for malpractice, and or, slander.
Serenitree · F
@Coyotedave611: 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
TheProphet · M
@Coyotedave611: You can't sue for either. If the info is true it can't be slander. And it isn't malpractice either.
@lastbabyboomer: Doctor-patient privilege ?
Serenitree · F
@lastbabyboomer: and so, we go back to just because everybody does it, that makes it okay? I happen to think that it doesn't make it okay. I think it makes it worse. If everybody starts driving drunk, then it will become okay.

Ugh. Bad example, but the best I could come up with on short notice.

My point is, wrong doesn't become right because everybody does it.

Apr. 11/17
9:40 pm
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@lastbabyboomer: Maybe refresh yourself with HIPPA laws, with all due respect I beg to differ.