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Why does it seem like so many young people think that they shouldn't have kids?

I can't wrap my head around it. They think that it would make the world more sustainable, reduce some imaginary carbon footprint, make them wealthier than their peers, etc. I don't buy any of that crap. Has no one told them that this fantastic* future means nothing if the people who populate it don't share their genes and their values?

What do you all think on the subject?



* emphasis on the root word fantasy
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Javik05 · 26-30, M
1. Quite a few young people I know would want kids when they're older
2. Imaginary carbon footprint? Very confused by that
3. Why is that a fantasy?
Invisible · 26-30, M
I never said all young people, but certainly many more in this generation have this mindset than in the last.

Yes, imaginary carbon footprint.

It's a fantasy because not having kids won't make these people rich, won't make them happy, and won't make the earth a better place.
Javik05 · 26-30, M
1. Agree with you there, fair point.
2. Let me guess, you think a hoax orchestrated by the Chinese.
3. I see where you're coming from, but that's a matter of personal opinion.
Invisible · 26-30, M
1. Let me guess, you read a lot of listicles?
2. Let me guess, you religiously follow leftist doctrine?
3. Let me guess, you haven't actually looked much into climate science research?
4. Let me guess, you rely on "consensus" and journalists for your climate beliefs?
5. Let me guess, no one ever told you the difference between climate and weather?
6. Let me guess, no one ever told you about the "global cooling" crap from the 70s and prior?
7. Let me guess, you don't think that the Earth's natural systems are mean reverting, even though they've persisted for more time than humans can fathom?
8. Let me guess, you believe in hockey stick graphs from a decade or two ago that never came to fruition?
9. Let me guess, it never crossed your mind that in a few generations we might not be using fossil fuels, so that argument falls apart?

No, I don't think global warming was invented by the Chinese, I think it was made in the west for green businesses to get loads of money from the government and pay very little in taxes. It's doing nothing but hurt us in terms of macroeconomics.

It's not a matter of personal opinion that you'll never get rich on a median household income of $50K!
Javik05 · 26-30, M
1. No, but I find it easier to organise points that way.
2. I don't happen to religiously follow the left, both sides are fairly shite.
3. Seems like I should be asking you that question.
4. Nope, hard data.
5. The two are linked, but not the same. This proves nothing.
6. No, but after a little reading, it seems like we should conquer problems we know now, rather than waiting to see if things level out.
7. Bring me some evidence that doesn't suggest correlation to the masses of greenhouse gasses we're pumping into the atmosphere, I'll see how my opinion develops.
8. Nope, I prefer recent data that comes from multiple reliable sources.
9. If no one invests in green energy because they think it's bs, that won't happen.

Kids are fucking expensive mate, retaining the wealth people have would definitely make them richer than if they had a child. Not all countries have child benefit, mind.