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CharlesRomsey · 61-69, M
The one thing that pees me off about our country is that racial origin is still an issue: I consider myself to be English. However I have Welsh, Irish, Romany & French in my genes: my favourite cuisine is Italian, I speak languages fluently, including French, German, Ancient Greek and Latin. Bulgaria and Cyprus are my favourite holiday destinations, along with the USA. My first childhood friends' parents came across on the Windrush, and I lost my virginity with a girl whose parents came from Barbados. The only time I consider my nationhood relevant is when it comes to Foreign Affairs.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Race is made up right. We didn't think about race until until the 17th century or so, the notion that all people of one race or another have some common intrinsic value.
So yeah we should get past it into something new and better. It's very hard to change social thinking though but the first rule is treat people how they want to be treated. Be kind. All that.
So yeah we should get past it into something new and better. It's very hard to change social thinking though but the first rule is treat people how they want to be treated. Be kind. All that.
bijouxbroussard · F
@CountScrofula Folks were thinking about race long before the 17th century.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard If you track philosophical and political texts throughout written history, the notion of "race" as we think about it doesn't show up before the slave trade though. There's a ton written about how it was basically invented to justify racial slavery. Most people just thought about "us" and "not us", which is also how enslavement worked.
Obviously some concepts of race existed but just nothing like what we have today.
Obviously some concepts of race existed but just nothing like what we have today.
WhateverWorks · 36-40
Eh.. in the United States there is this sort of general homogeny, but there’s also self – segregation where people gather in clusters of similar background, especially if that background conflicts with the mainstream, homogenous values
Mellowgirl · 31-35, F
@WhateverWorks yes... But that's not the point I am making.
In doing so isn't that what creates problems.
In doing so isn't that what creates problems.
WhateverWorks · 36-40
Hard to say. I fall under the homogenized category for the most part. I’m mostly French and Irish, but that was so many generation that the culture itself isn’t present within my family. I imagine though that if I had a cultural identity/‘a people I feel connected to via my culture ’ I wouldn’t appreciate people expecting me to relinquish it @Mellowgirl
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@WhateverWorks many cities in America have chinatowns . That’s a good example of self segregation. .
Many religious groups do the same thing .
Many religious groups do the same thing .
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
That's a great way of defining a nation 💖
bijouxbroussard · F
Places like the Americas and Australia are different from Europe. In the former, Europeans displaced and overran indigenous communities, decimated them. They weren’t the original inhabitants here. So for them to turn around and complain about "immigrants” has been the height of hypocrisy.
Europe has more of a right to guard traditions going back thousands of years in the face of those immigrating there who want to change things. Of course there’s hypocrisy there, as well, since their own explorers and settlers were not concerned about local traditions wherever they showed up.
Europe has more of a right to guard traditions going back thousands of years in the face of those immigrating there who want to change things. Of course there’s hypocrisy there, as well, since their own explorers and settlers were not concerned about local traditions wherever they showed up.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
bijouxbroussard · F
@Burnley123 Emphasizes the point.
Y’all got around. 😜
Y’all got around. 😜
Mellowgirl · 31-35, F
@bijouxbroussard I hear you.
Although there was much pain and suffering as a consequence of these.
Today though I can honestly I appreciate what the world has to offer.
In London for example I walk down the road and see the most diverse nation of people, pretty much most days living in harmony. Shops and restaurants owned by that multicultural population offering products and services customary to their native country.
Some people may say nasty racist things but I actually prefer that now the people have the opportunity to sell what's rightfully "theirs" in peace!
Although there was much pain and suffering as a consequence of these.
Today though I can honestly I appreciate what the world has to offer.
In London for example I walk down the road and see the most diverse nation of people, pretty much most days living in harmony. Shops and restaurants owned by that multicultural population offering products and services customary to their native country.
Some people may say nasty racist things but I actually prefer that now the people have the opportunity to sell what's rightfully "theirs" in peace!
exchrist · 31-35
One humanity brother 3 generations in and literally everyone is the same
popmol · 26-30, M
you can't see culture! you see colour first
popmol · 26-30, M
@Mellowgirl that might work on your street maybe neighbourhood but anyone in the same culture but from further away will not.
Mellowgirl · 31-35, F
@popmol so you do not!
popmol · 26-30, M
@Mellowgirl if i see a black person in norway my first thought wouldn't be hey a Norwegian :p
they might have been there for 6 generation and such completely integrated but thats what will happen.
they might have been there for 6 generation and such completely integrated but thats what will happen.