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How long till we can be 100 that the vaccine is safe?

It doesn't seem as good as it was meant to be because we all have to have boosters now, apparently. If the whole thing was just to make it seem as if we were doing something useful, thats OK, but only if in a few years people DON'T start having babies born with health problems.
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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
Because it was rushed, it normally takes about 10-12 years to get a new medicine to the market. There are usually long and short term clinical trials. This whole package was delivered in less than 18 months.
AbbySvenz · F
There is a difference between rushing and being expedited. There was already a lot of research already laid down for how to make the vaccine, the trials started early, there were a lot of people involved in them, the phases overlapped, and the manufacturing infrastructure was already in place.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Roadsterrider You realize the expedited the process by doing the stages of the trials contemporaneously, right? Like they overlapped safety testing with effectiveness testing for example, completing both as normal but in a much shorter total stretch of time.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@BlueVeins They rushed it. There isn't any way to get long term data from a year and a half of development. It takes most medicines at least a decade to get approved, there is long term data for side effects and problems before it goes to market. There isn't any data for Covid-19 vaccinations for more than a year or so. My daughter was a teen when Gardasil came out, my wife is a nurse, she didn't let my daughter get the HPV vaccine, a few months later it was removed from the market and came back out a year or so later in an "improved" version. Now 20 years later, it is associated with Guillain-Barré syndrome. A debilitating illness, deadly if it attacks the muscles used to breath. And now problems from the covid vaccines are starting to show up, enlarged hearts, other problems with the cardiovascular system and pulmonary system. Pfizer got FDA approval for the first mRNA vaccine ever in the US. No one knows what the long term effects of mRNA vaccines is going to be. Some of the side effects are just hype, some are real, it will take 10 or 15 years to figure it out.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Roadsterrider mRNA vaccines have been in human clinical trials since 2001; the only difference between those early birds & the COVID-19 vaccine is that these ones code for a harmless hunk o' spike protein instead of tumor antigens. This is a non-issue.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@BlueVeins So, they have been working on the cure for cancer, dropped everything in order to apply what they learned to a completely different illness and pumped out a vaccine in a year? Two decades of trying to make it work for one type application and then almost overnight, developing a complete package for a different application, doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy. That would be like Brigg's & Stratton saying "We have been building engines for 90 years, now we are going to build an aircraft engine and the government is going to mandate it be used in all passenger aircraft in the country.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Roadsterrider If you think that marginally different applications for old technologies are potentially dangerous, then honestly how do you do anything without expecting to die? The vast majority of foods that you could buy are made from recipes that've been changed sometime in the past 15 years, does that keep you up at night? Do you not get your yearly influenza vaccine because those get changed annually?
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@BlueVeins No, not really, I sleep well, but changes in recipes isn't at all likely to affect my body on a cellular level causing changes. I don't get a flu vaccine because I don't generally get the flu. In the past I have gotten the flu vaccine and felt like doggy doo for a few days, when I don't get the flu vaccine, and I don't get the flu, I don't have to feel bad for those few days. New technology is a wonderful thing, in 10 or 15 years they come up with mRNA vaccines for cancer, I will most likely get a vaccine. But, I don't want to be forced into getting a vaccine.

Medicine is not a one size fits all thing. Penicillin is a wonder drug, except for people who are allergic to it. If my wife gets it, a minute or two later, she can't breathe.

Mercury in older vaccines, it damaged some people.
AbbySvenz · F
Also: Cancer research is not virus research@Roadsterrider