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polyandrym66 · 70-79, M
I agree with you, that most of them are in that field to fix themselves.
My second wife was a RN and went back to school to become a marriage counselor because she saw a lack of poly friendly therapists..
We were practicing swingers.. She did not find many customers interested.

It's a failure. Most therapy patients never get better. Like treating cancer with leeches.
Magenta · F
[quote]many people go into that field to fix themselves[/quote] I believe that, I've always said that. They are no different than us. I think there is far too many boxed in, structured labels and definitions applied, that dehumanizes us. Even earning the degree is based on structured/biased knowledge. One could only be proficient and helpful if they [i]truly[/i] understood the deeper human nature.
Magenta · F
@FlowersNButterflies Thank you. :-)
Ah interesting, I have not read that. Perhaps I should.
But I think we use far too many labels for (sometimes) what is merely human emotion or hormonal fluctuations.
FlowersNButterflies · 61-69, F
@Magenta I agree! They are removing normal by making it so narrow that nobody is really normal anymore.
Magenta · F
@FlowersNButterflies Ooh true! It's putting the notion in peoples heads that something in wrong with them for just being human. It's a travesty.
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
Depends on how knowledgeable they are on what your issues are and how good they are at figuring what they are in the fisrt place.

Over all, psychology still has a long way to go in efectively treating mental health problems
FlowersNButterflies · 61-69, F
Agree. And many illnesses are physical with emotional SYMPTOMS, and when they get caught up in the symptoms and not the cause, they fail. @Dolimyte
kimmy159 · F
The main "issue" is that every therapist has his/her own approach. You need someone you both click with, and whose methods work for you. That combination is sometimes hard to find. It must be one of the best things that can happen to you if you do find it imo :-))
FlowersNButterflies · 61-69, F
Lot of work trying to find a good one. Another issue is that despite my strokes and traumatic brain injury, my IQ still tests superior. That seems intimidating to many, but it is just a fact to be worked with. @kimmy159
kimmy159 · F
@FlowersNButterflies It's the search that makes it very tiring and the fact that you have to put in a lot of yourself and effort (opening up to someone about your deepest injuries / feelings doesn't come easy). A lot of people get tired of the search before they can find that right person (that was the case for me at least). Are you still trying to find the right therapy for you? If so, I hope you succeed! x
FlowersNButterflies · 61-69, F
@kimmy159 I don't know. One was deposed at my car accident lawsuit and said a lot of provable lies. Just one example, under oath he said he couldn't understand why I resented going to physical therapy 3 times a week since he said I told him I was only a secretary for 13 years - which I never said because I owned and operated a group health insurance brokerage. My secretary and the gal who bought my business were also deposed!

He said many lies and they still follow me to this day.

Because my life is ending, I don't have time or energy to be jacked around. And it is hard to find one anyway as I am in Arkansas which is 49th in the nation for health care, only Mississippi is worse.

Also, Arkansas is #1 in the nation for low IQ, and 42nd in education, so here they don't even know how bad they are. Dunning-Krueger.
SazyGirl · 56-60, F
My experiences left me thinking what I already knew about my situation. It left me with an impression it’s cheaper to have a friend just sit there and listen as that’s all they really do :(
Rhodesianman · 56-60, M
I used to see a shrink but she wasnt much help and often came away feeling worse than before I saw her .
FlowersNButterflies · 61-69, F
There is that... too. There is a bell curve in life and most are average, so to find a really good superior one is hard. And we don't get to know about them and their lives, have they had successes or is it all just book learning.
SwampFlower · 31-35, F
I've read your comments here and I have a therapist who specializes in what you're looking for. It took me a while to find her. You're right that most therapists are only trained in helping otherwise healthy people and do not understand the complexities of the terminally ill. However, they are out there and I sincerely hope you find one. 🤗
FlowersNButterflies · 61-69, F
@SwampFlower Thank you. So far, no luck. And MD's don't help because they can't see a broader picture (such as avoiding medications that worsen us), or not sending us to a nutritionist, not giving us oxygen (which I finally got), not offering B-12 injections which are known to help, withholding anti anxiety meds (for fear we might get addicted on the way to our deaths)... so many failures.
SW-User
It is attractive when you are broken to seek out a cure,but you'd have to be a really strong individual to keep your hurt and thiers seprate.
FlowersNButterflies · 61-69, F
My goal is to work out end of life issues. @SW-User
SW-User
@FlowersNButterflies I'm sure there is a therapy just for that, if possible ,I'd seek out a counselor who specializes in that.
maybe a grief counselor?
FlowersNButterflies · 61-69, F
@SW-User Doesn't work in brain injury and disease.
Not all of them but some. They’re still knowledgeable.

Psychologists are the most knowledgeable. *
I don’t believe the theory that they have a vested interest in keeping their patients sick. There are just too many millions of people for that to make sense. And they can be and often are very helpful for short term issues.
FlowersNButterflies · 61-69, F
I have seen many put physical and physiological conditions into the category of poor mental hygiene. For example, I have a medical condition which produces stroke. It is genetic, therefore untreatable and incurable. I have had many brain MRI's showing increasing debility, and that is physical and provable.

So I tend to dismiss therapists who don't learn the differences because we can't out-think stroke damage. Also, with that level of ignorance, medical records become filled with nonsense, but if you object to the nonsense, they claim you are resistant, and add that as a diagnosis. Gets old. My mentor died of breast cancer last year, and I miss her. @bijouxbroussard
@FlowersNButterflies I’m very sorry about the loss of your mentor and what you’ve experienced with your illness. 🙁
FlowersNButterflies · 61-69, F
Thank you. It has become very hard to be me, and so many like me out there.@bijouxbroussard

 
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