Charles Manson was a victim of the system?

On some real a$$ edgelord mess, I think the system wronged him. He was CLEARLY mentally ill but didn't fit the category of scitzephrenia or psychosis, so he was never diagnosed. Obviously he's dangerouse and was a homicidal maniac, but the key word is MANIAC. I DO NOT think he is fully responsible for his actions, and I think he should have been in a mental asylum instead of a prison. Putting a 5'2 mentally ill homeless guy in a fucking prison was fucked up. Also, I know i'm not the monster for feeling empathy, but ppl who paint people with black and whites brushes are

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Nutshell29 · 26-30, F Best Comment

A child doesn't know what terrible is

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Can anyone who does something like that be truly "normal", though? I mean, are there examples of mass murderers who are perfectly sane people who are 100% responsible for their actions? If they act calm and normal and don't rant and rave like Manson, one could just chalk that up to sociopathy, which is itself a mental problem.

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@AgapeLove Well yeah, he's batshit, no doubt, but that doesn't mean he bears no responsibility for what he did. I guess I'm somewhere in between the idea that mental illness is just an excuse and the Ancient Greek idea that everything you do is your responsibility no matter what (Hercules was driven mad by Hera into seeing his family as serpents and killed them in his delusional crazed state but when he came to and found out what he had done, he spent the rest of his life atoning for it. Even having a goddess make you crazy wasn't an excuse to them).

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@AgapeLove If they haven't actually killed anyone, they shouldn't be in prison. They should be locked up in a mental institution though if they're a threat to others.

spjennifer · 56-60, T

Lots of people with mental health issues can be considered "insane" but most of them don't commit mass murder on the scale that Manson and his followers did and he would've killed a lot more if he hadn't been caught. Manson wasn't just insane, he was evil and should have been put to death soon after he was convicted.

GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M

He was fully aware of what he was doing.
He planned and orchestrated the murders.
He knew right from wrong.
Therefore he was rightfully convicted and deserved his life in prison.

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Well,following this logic 80% of hard criminals should be in mental asylums

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@AgapeLove so give serial killers 10 years of reform treatment and set them free?

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

Yeah, such a sweet, misunderstood fellow, lets hold a vigil for him

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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@AgapeLove He should have been dead 15 minutes after he was convicted

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