Is prostitution inherently immoral?

@Carazaa You shouldn't only be intimate with the intent of making babies.

@SatanBurger That is not what I said. I believe that making love is important for intimacy. Regardless if there is a new life. But because of the possibility of a new life, the act needs to be serious, because if it isn't and there is no intention to be honorable to the person or the baby it can lead to disastrous results for that baby.

@Carazaa I'm not sure why sex workers would be bad parents nevertheless that there's many different forms of sex work, some don't involve penetration. In the UK for instance most sex workers who are female are parents and they mostly do it to feed their kids. Most sex workers are also driven by the economy, there's low wage jobs that only equal to 15,000 a year. In fact most jobs are just barely 11,000 yearly and try being a mother on that.

If you work at a brothel you could make 100 a night or even a 1,000. Many probably don't even want to do sex work (plenty of others actually do want to) but the economy calls for it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38128523

Not everyone can find a perfect male, things happen. You find out the male used you, maybe he was abusive but you loved him at one point, you accidentally got pregnant only to find out he didn't want it but you did, you thought you loved him etc.

Lots of things happen, you could be with someone for years and yet still things happen..

Sex workers are not bad parents and it's only disastrous for the children mainly due to stigma. From the ncbi Gov website says that sex workers accounts reveal benefits while mothering, which includes [b]flexibility, higher incomes and economic independence[/b].

[b]Stigma however prevents sex workers from obtaining help in both police/hospital atmosphere and face violence[/b].

All of that limits the sex worker's ability to be a parent and also get help that they need for drug addiction.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4469630/

@SatanBurger I think many men and women are exploited in the sex industry. I don't like this kind of industry regardless how much money a person makes. I think that a parent should get some support from the government to get out if that is the case. I care about all people and definitely think we need to help drug addicts, and those who have been exploited in any way at all. Sex trafficking is a problem in USA. Is it in England? Or wherever you are? Australia?

@Carazaa

I think in that case it's important to distinguish making love from having sex.
They're not the same thing.

@Pikachu Sure, I agree with that. I am talking about prostitution. I think the act of making love has been cheapened down to a business, or meaningless sex. It is sad to me.

@Carazaa

But does that make it immoral?
If you value sex more than someone else, are they immoral for not valuing it in the same way you do?

@Pikachu I don't know about that. It sounds immoral.

@Carazaa

Which means that it's a thing which you consider immoral but which you can't argue is objectively immoral, right?

@Pikachu I Think God only allows sexual relations for married people. So it is immoral. People dont care about Gods opinion though so they do what they want. I want to be obedient to God because I want to make Him happy with me.I also have a problem with the whole sex industry. Because there is so much abuse.

@Carazaa

Yes, in the end it comes down to faith claim. Agreed.

@Pikachu I think it is more than a faith thing. What we do with our time is important. If we are having meaningless sex it is meaningless. Why not pass out food for the homeless, or write a book, or volunteer somewhere instead. Many maybe even most are not telling their wives they are lying. And many of those young boys and girls in the industry are abused by pimps. It is not a kind industry so no its not a faith thing. By the way, Gods way is healthy and blessed.

@Carazaa


[quote] If we are having meaningless sex it is meaningless.[/quote]

It's not meaningless. It's to earn a living.
It's the same "meaning" that you work your job or i work mine.
Why don't you abandon your paid work and pass out food to the homeless?
Yes, there are prostitutes who are being taken advantage of. Just like there are people working in salons or clothing factories that are being taken advantage of.

The question is, is prostitution [i]inherently[/i] immoral, not [i]can[/i] it be immoral.
It seems to me that your answer ultimately relies on what you think god wnts.

@Pikachu You're right I do rely on that.

@Carazaa

Then we're on the same page there.

@Pikachu Well good, because I don't want to make anyone mad but you called me disrespectful and I sincerely do not want to be disrespectful. The only reason I mentioned the OCD traits is that it appears you want me to understand your questions, but you do not appear to understand my answers. I do understand that you compare the Bible to other writings. I am very critical with what I read, but reading the Bible IS reading a different kind of a book it is not about God it is from God, and about His people. I don't think there is another book from God including the quran. A history book of the entire human history, telling the future too. If you get nothing out of reading it at least it is a history of the Jews which is interesting.

@Carazaa

Well that's why i like talking to you, carazaa. You're usually just trying to communicate honestly.
Me too. So if it seems that i'm not accepting your answers, understand that it's a breakdown in communication, not me demanding that you give me the answer i want.

[quote]. I don't think there is another book from God [/quote]

And i don't think there are any. The way you feel about the quran is exactly how i feel about the bible. You get me?
I don't share your faith and so the bible to me is just an unconvincing tale of mythology.
I like it. It's interesting and fun and funny. But it doesn't speak to me in the same way that the quran didn't speak to you.
Not yet anyway.

@Pikachu Wow, I think we way off topic, well ok. One of these days maybe you will see the light... just kidding! Us Christians. I am talking about Godspeed and others here just see truth so clearly that it doesn't make any sense to the world. Could we just be so deceived us Christians when we are in agreement for the most part. Who gave us the insight if not God? Well its late where you are I think so you don't have to respond that we are crazy tonight ha ha.

@Carazaa

Could we just be so deceived us Muslims when we are in agreement for the most part. Who gave us the insight if not Allah?

Think about it😉

@Pikachu Allah is NOT a logical religion.

@Carazaa What? How is your religion more logical?

@Carazaa

In your opinion.
Of course, i would say the same about the christian god😉

My only aim there is to demonstrate that your argument about the source of your christian faith can equally be claimed - write or wrong - by a muslim.

@SatanBurger God tells us we are sinful. I understand that we can't get to heaven by ourselves. Other religions all of them infact we can earn points to get to God by doing good. And many spiritual paths just ignore so much. They only focus on feeling good. Feeling good does not explain why things happen in the world, and feeling good is not as important as growing emotionally and mentally which happens when we are hurting or sacrifizing. If we want to feel good and that is what our religion is about then we become selfish and ignore people. We should be other directed not self directed as a society.

@Carazaa Like the Buddha, who wanted to find himself and become enlightened. So he left his 2 year old and wife to go and meditate. What a selfish thing to do. Jesus wants us to sacrifice and give not just meditate to feel good and ignore our obligations.

@Pikachu OK, I do understand where you are coming from but it is still a poor argument if God is the author of the Bible.